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Parental Control - whatsapp isn't being blocked #5

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maghuro opened this issue May 19, 2020 · 3 comments
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Parental Control - whatsapp isn't being blocked #5

maghuro opened this issue May 19, 2020 · 3 comments

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@maghuro
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maghuro commented May 19, 2020

I think whatsapp is only using facebook hostnames (maybe they've changed hostnames?). because the only whatsapp address i see on logs is g.whatsapp.net

Even if i block whatsapp, i can still continue using the app on all devices. In fact it was blocked since yesterday because I forgot, and whatsapp still works properly.

However, maybe if i block Facebook on Parental Control, it'll block whatsapp also (not tested).
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Voltairine-de-Cleyre commented Jun 9, 2020 •
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@maghuro

I think whatsapp is only using facebook hostnames

Mostly. They're also using Amazon as well as various lesser-known ASNs.

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Voltairine-de-Cleyre commented Jun 13, 2020 •
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@romaincointepas @maghuro

  1. cdn.messenger.com => WhatsApp apparently shares Messenger's CDN, unsurprisingly.
  2. cdn.whatsapp.net
  3. connect.facebook.net => source of necessary scripts. web.whatsapp.com will partially load without it blacklisted.
  4. fbcdn.net => source of necessary scripts.
  5. graph.whatsapp.net => Facebook domain used for similar functions as graph.facebook.com (adverts, app functionality), but for WhatsApp.
  6. mmx-ds.cdn.whatsapp.net => see CNAME info below.

mmx-ds.cdn.whatsapp.net CNAME www.whatsapp.com

  • Blacklisting the APEX/s whatsapp.net & whatsapp.com is unnecessary. It's also apparently no longer a viable solution in order to block WhatsApp.
  • I'd welcome some feedback from people. Note that I purposefully disabled all WhatsApp related parental control, was not using "No-Facebook" & only had the above 6 hostnames blacklisted.

Edit @ 2020-06-18T20:14:22+00:00

  • So, investigating this further led me to an important discovery. While using the NextDNS app, with the above sub/domains blocked as explained, WhatsApp will still load. However when using the same NextDNS setup (DoH) via a "third-party" app such as AdGuard, WhatsApp will not load. It shows in the logs as having been loaded, but said logs are mistaken. Knowing the little that I do regarding how the NextDNS app handles DNS in general vs how AdGuard does, my guess tells me that since AdGuard stops all DNS traffic before leaving one's device (an iPhone in my case) including both incoming & outgoing requests using a direct loopback on the device itself so that no DNS query of a sub/domain within any blacklist may connect with any sub/domain contained in that blacklist, it blocks WhatsApp using the above listed hosts (within this post). However, the NextDNS app seems to be using a variation of that loopback - a tunnel - that allows outgoing requests while blocking incoming requests. I know it seems a difference that wouldn't necessarily have any effect in how any DNS requests function, yet if my guess is on point, it may very well be the difference that's allowing connections & subsequent loading of WhatsApp.

Edit @ 2020-06-19T18:06:17+00:00

Further investigation narrowed down a single whatsapp.net subdomain that acts as a CNAME for both www.whatsapp.com & web.whatsapp.com (among others) that, if blocked, does prevent said websites from loading. They are both completely blocked from loading / appearing. I refer to mmx-ds.cdn.whatsapp.net. I have tested this rigorously & over a timespan (three hours) that, I believe, discounted any possible hiccups with any part of the equation. I tested it using both my WAN DNS servers (NextDNS DoT servers via modded Asus AX58U) as well as CloudFlare's DoH server/s (in order to completely bypass NextDNS to retest a small list of WhatsApp related hosts). I did list the above referred to whatsapp.net subdomain in my earlier postings; however, I did so in combination with other WhatsApp related subdomains. I now state unequivocally that blocking mmx-ds.cdn.whatsapp.net blocks WhatsApp resources necessary for www.whatsapp.com & web.whatsapp.com, including the sites themselves due to the CNAME scheme WhatsApp is using for its websites/resources.

@romaincointepas romaincointepas transferred this issue from nextdns/metadata Dec 2, 2022
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