[Bug] --empty doesn't work with relation that are already named and might conflict

[github-christophe-oudar]

Is this a new bug?

• I believe this is a new bug
• I have searched the existing issues, and I could not find an existing issue for this bug

Current Behavior

This a follow up from my comment on the original PR.

If any is using code like FROM {{ source('schema', 'table') }} my_table_alias while using the --empty alias.
The resulting SQL is the following: FROM (select * from `db`.`schema`.`table` where false limit 0) _dbt_limit_subq my_table_alias

The problem is linked to the alias that's already set up here:

dbt-adapters/dbt/adapters/base/relation.py

Lines 213 to 214 in 2a99e36

	return f"(select * from {rendered} where false limit 0) _dbt_limit_subq"
	else:

which prevents from aliasing by ourselves. Also if there are multiple references, I guess the tables will all be aliased to _dbt_limit_subq resulting in an error.

Expected Behavior

The simplest expected would be that it results in FROM (select * from `db`.`schema`.`table` where false limit 0) my_table_alias (practically that no table name is suffixed automatically). However if the user didn't name its table, it will fail... which is another problem. Yet we could look into alternatives:

• finding a way to detect the table is suffixed
  • it looks like complex based on how dbt works
• enabling setting the alias through the kwargs from the source/ref macros
  • it might be seems reasonable but requires modifications on the end users

Steps To Reproduce

• Create a simple model my_model.sql with an SQL like:
  SELECT * FROM {{ source('schema', 'table') }} my_table_alias
• run dbt command dbt run -s my_model --empty

Relevant log output

No response

Environment

- OS: MacOS 13.2.1
- Python: 3.11
- dbt-adapter: 1.8.0b1

Additional Context

No response

[dwreeves]

set no alias (but then I think some DBs requires an alias and then it would fail for them with default setup)

Yes, some do (e.g. Postgres) but some don't (e.g. Snowflake).

This could be an attribute of the dialect's adapter, e.g. requires_aliases_for_subqueries: bool.

For those that do not required, aliasing shouldn't be used at all. Then the problem is solved arbitrarily, no other fixes required.

For those that do require aliases, that is where it gets trickier. One of the issues I see with something like, select * from {{ ref("foo", alias="foo") }} or select * from {{ ref("foo", alias=True) }} (pick your poison for an API) is that this isn't any less complex in terms of the pre-compiled code than just doing select * from {{ ref("foo", alias=True) }} as foo.

So, based on that, and based on the fact that most (all?) OLAP systems (i.e. what typical users are using dbt with) don't require aliasing subqueries, I actually think there is a strong argument for not aliasing these subqueries at all: OLAP people don't need aliases; Postgres people do but the code isn't made simpler by forcing it into the Jinja instead of the SQL. (In that case, you also wouldn't even need a requires_aliases_for_subqueries: bool for the adapter.)

[khaledh]

Just want to add +1 as we're having the same issue (we're using dbt-bigquery).

[dcarvalhofernandes]

+1 on this, using dbt-snowflake

[colin-rogers-dbt]

Working on a PR for this, approach is going to be to make the aliasing configurable for each adapter so we can keep it for postgres or mysql but drop for platforms that don't need it (i.e. bigquery / snowflake). This should at least fix this case for those platforms.

Worth noting the workaround, in the meantime, is to move the ref into a CTE.
So instead of:
SELECT * FROM {{ source('schema', 'table') }} my_table_alias
this should work...

WITH my_table_alias as (SELECT * FROM {{ source('schema', 'table') }})

SELECT * FROM my_table_alias

[dwreeves]

Users may still be using aliases for tables in Postgres, e.g.

select a.*
from {{ ref("base_table") }} a
left join {{ ref("foreign_entity") }} b
on a.foreign_id = b.id

The above is valid Postgres SQL, after rendering. So it seems like adding aliases can still end up breaking workflows for some Postgres users, unless I'm missing something.

[colin-rogers-dbt]

You're not missing something and we still need to come up with a better long term solution here (other than asking people to write their SQL differently if they want to use --empty). Essentially I'm going to get a fast-ish fix to reduce the scope of this case to just platforms that require aliasing subqueries.
Currently there isn't a way for us to interpret the context of the ref to know if we should or should not add an alias

[dwreeves]

I guess my point is, for SQL for dialects requiring aliased subqueries, the path to making all queries working arbitrarily with --empty is:

• If an alias is added by dbt: Replace aliased refs {{ ref("table") }} as x with (select * from {{ ref("table") }}) as x
• If an alias is not added by dbt: Replace un-aliased refs {{ ref("table") }} with {{ ref("table") }} as x

In both cases, SQL rewrites are required (one set of users has to make changes), and between the two I think people would rather write as x than wrap in a subquery.

Furthermore, unless someone can chime in with expertise on the Postgres query planner, I'd not rule out the possibility that replacing from table with from (select * from table) could cause performance troubles for non-empty queries. In my limited testing with Postgres on some queries we use in prod, it doesn't seem like replacing tbl with (select * from tbl) impacted the explains, but I don't know enough about Postgres, and don't have enough real world test cases, to rule out that possibility. (Could anyone who knows more than me chime in and assure it never impacts what the query planner does? 😅)

[dwreeves]

Ah, it seems like it does not ever impact the query planner to replace from tbl with from (select * from tbl)! https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/queries-table-expressions.html#QUERIES-SUBQUERIES OK, that is one of my concerns alleviated. 😄

One more note on Postgres, specifically, for what it's worth, since apparently my information is a little out of date: Postgres ≤13 requires aliases, but ≥14 does not.

[colin-rogers-dbt]

@dwreeves It may be true that most users have those preferences but changing this behavior in dbt-postgres would amount to a breaking change for the set of users for whom this is working as opposed to preserving the present behavior where it's always been broken for this case.

Ultimately we need to find a better long term approach for supporting --empty and making these kind of dynamic sql manipulation.

[colin-rogers-dbt]

closing, tracking the long term fix here: #199

[benesch]

One more note on Postgres, specifically, for what it's worth, since apparently my information is a little out of date: Postgres ≤13 requires aliases, but ≥14 does not.

For posterity: aliases became optional in v16, not v14! See: postgres/postgres@bcedd8f

[dwreeves]

One more note on Postgres, specifically, for what it's worth, since apparently my information is a little out of date: Postgres ≤13 requires aliases, but ≥14 does not.

For posterity: aliases became optional in v16, not v14! See: postgres/postgres@bcedd8f

Thanks! Seems I have poor reading comprehension, or confused myself clicking through the docs versions 😞

[mvzakharov]

Hello everyone. I use the adapter dbt-vertica
I want to add there is the same problem.
It is not possible to use the key --empty.