Cards with incorrect dates #41
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It started at the 4th century CE or before. |
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Q184661 |
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This is not really a date that may be determined. |
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same for proto-indo-european languages, which comes up sometimes. |
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The story is by far older |
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Q651532 |
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Norfolk Island wasn't discovered in 1774. While the first European sighting was (probably) in 1774, it had previously been settled by Polynesian seafarers in the 13th or 14th century. Wikidata is incorrect:
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Q31057 |
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Navassa Island was claimed by the US in 1857; the island was not created in 1857. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navassa_Island
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There are a lot of islands where the card says "created" - I've seen montserrat, bermuda. Maybe that's the formal name for a governed region at a certain point in time, but I agree that the card is misleading. |
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Hi Sorry I didn't screengrab the card when it appeared, but the card for 'Pride' pulls out the first image from this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride but appears to be referring to this film https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_%26_Prejudice_(2005_film) |
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Q270385 |
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Not a bad date but I am fairly certain "Postage stamp designer" is not the most useful description for George V. |
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related, it's hilarious to call Prince Charles of England a "writer". |
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Q40185 , inception changed to a more precise date |
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Card asking for birth date of Elizabeth Bennet, literary character, gives answer as 1800. Pride and Prejudice was published in 1813. Elizabeth says she is not one and twenty (so she’s twenty about halfway through the novel but the action covers about a year so she might be 21 by the end). Jane Austen started writing the novel in 1796. The novel doesn’t make clear exactly what year it is set in. So there are several potential right answers, but 1800 isn’t one of them. Maybe just ask what year Pride and Prejudice was published or in what year Jane Austen started writing it? I really enjoy the game! |
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related, I see that the issue from the old issues thread - that all biblical characters from the gospels (so, people who hung out with Jesus) have 1AD as their birthdate. Thomas the apostle, Mary, etc. That's still the case. |
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ok, I see what's going on. Anything datng from the "1st century AD" gets a "1" on its card |
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Elizabeth Bennet: Q2223341 |
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The War in Afghanistan ended in 2021, so it's no longer 2001-present, nor is Ended:2014 correct. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q182865
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wikidata link to fix: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q182865 i did not fix anything, someone else could. |
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Did not get a screen grab, but the card for the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Chronicle is pulling a date of 173 AD. That's clearly incorrect - it appears to be pulling the manuscript number from a collected document, rather than the actual date. |
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"publication date" would be the right date to show for this one. |
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Q212746 |
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Rumpelstiltskin appeared in the Grimm brothers' 1812 Household Stories.
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"Lindisfarne" gives date 'created' of 1859, which seems to be pulling the date of creation from the lighthouse on the island, rather than the island itself. As it's a natural island it can't really be 'created' as such. Furthermore, there is a history of human habitation dating back to at least the 6th century. "Svalbard" has a similar wording issue, giving a date 'created' of 1920, which is at best confusing since this is obviously not when the island was created (nor when it was first settled) but merely the date it was formally recognized as Norwegian territory. And similarly, "Giant's Causeway" lists the date the site was designated a UNESCO world heritage site, rather than the creation of the actual geological formation, which is also confusing. "1st millennium BC" should be removed for obvious reasons. "Life (magazine)" should be 1883, not 1936. |
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Q213804 |
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this one is odd because it was already in bad-cards.ts (along with anglo-saxon chronicle) |
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Life magazine: fixed in wikidata w reference. |
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This really shortchanges the amazing history of this northwest Indian fort (that my friend has been to). And like another commenter says above: there may be multiple right answers for this, but the given answer isn't one of them. |
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I think the correct answer is: completed 1458. |
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so i updated wikidata but i havent found a source i like enough to add it yet. |
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Picture for "Indo-Greek Kingdom" shows a date. |
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Ubba. Died 878 CE. Birth date unknown but in the ballpark of 850. |
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Why -14?
The first Jewish High Priest was Aharon The Priest, became first Jewish
High Priest on 1313BC (by Jewish sources calculations).
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Should be around -14 instead of 100.
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It's specifically about the high priest Caiaphas, who https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caiaphas lists as being born 14 BC |
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Sorry. Did not notice that.
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It's specifically about the high priest Caiaphas, who
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caiaphas lists as being born 14 BC
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answer is for the creation of the party leader position, description implies it's asking for the date of the wikimedia list article about the party leader position |
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The card for Fanny Hill 1748 has a nsfw image |
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Greece (The country) is given a creation date in the 1800s but Phillip Of Macedon united the greek city states in the 4th century BC. Maybe reword the question as greek independence from the ottoman empire or something like that |
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sous vide was invented in 1974 |
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The guillotine was invented long before 1792. |
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The card asked for when the americas were discovered. And while it is certainly correct that Kolumbus disovered the Americas in 1492, mankind did so between 20,000 and 16,000 years ago. And let's not talk about Leif Eriksson. |
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Krishna was born in 3228 BCE according to wikidata (accessed on Sept 24, 2024).
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Joseph of Aramathea Date of birth is given as 100CE/AD But He offered his tomb for Jesus's burial. Dates vary for this event (for those who agree it occurred) ranging from around 33-40 AD/CE as Jesus is believed to have died age 33. So Joseph of Aramathea could not have been born over 50 years later. Maybe he is believed to have DIED in 100 AD. A better date of birth would be around 1AD minimum, but there's no agreed dates for him. |
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It should say 'end of Hapsburg dynasty' or beginning of Bourbon monarchy in Spain. 1700 as 'start of Spanish monarchy' is incorrect. |
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Caiaphas is listed as having been born in 100 rather than 14BC. It seems as if several figures connected with Jesus were accidentally/temporarily all given the birth date of 100 and it was not changed . |
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Some cards in the game contain dates that are debatable, wrong or vandalized. The cards in the game were generated several months ago and potentially contain old data which is no longer visible on the wikidata item.
If you are able, the most helpful thing to do is to directly open a PR to remove the card from the game as described on #12.
If you are not able to do that, this discussion can serve as a place to collate those so that we can remove them from the game and fix the underlying data.
Please check whether the card you are about to post has already been submitted.
Please add a link to the underlying wikidata/wikipedia item, or the very least give the name of the card.
If you fix any of the underlying wikidata items (or see that it is fixed), please leave a reply on the comment saying so.
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