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Not possible to see or select publication language after submission #5502
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A potentially tricky UI/UX problem needs solving here. All required submission-level fields must be completed in the submission's primary language, so a change if primary locale when that's not the case would need...
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Ok, this makes sense and the first option may be pretty easy to accomplish with the new setup. All edits are run through a validation script which can check for missing data and return an error describing which fields are missing. I think trying to offer a form is not a good idea, especially now that we have the flexible schema so it's not necessarily very easy to construct such a form. |
@pmangahis yes, if the UI offered a way to change the language then editors could identify which language it was submitted in. We should try to get this into 3.3 if possible. |
@asmecher @NateWr Hi Alec and Nate, is there any status update for this issue? We have problems with this in combination with the quickSubmit plugin. If you select a submission language in the quickSubmit Plugin and only want to fill the Contributor meta data for this language it is currently not possible, because it seems the Author form is not switched to the new language and the other submission language is marked as required. So you have fill at least two metadata fields. I thought it would be no problem if we can change the submission language after submiting and correct the contributor metadata after this, but as of now its not possible. Thanks and regards, Nils |
I think I found the issue with the submission language in the quickSubmit Plugin. I opened a separate issue: These two issues work together in devious ways 😬 |
No progress yet, unfortunately! |
related (same?) issue in v2: #742 - Permit editors to change submission locales |
It looks like #742 is filed against OJS 2.x. I've closed that issue because we are not going to put out an update for it. |
+1 from a multilingual journal that uses Quick Submit and currently has no way of correcting the publication locale that was selected by mistake. This affects their metadata export to Coalition Publica that requires the title in the field of that language. |
Still in 3.4.0. this is a major issue for us. We are making preparations to upgrade from 3.1.2 and 3.4.0 with multilingual submissions and we need this option. At least to show the language of the submission. |
Could you consider increasing the priority? In my opinion its is not a low priority bug, because it means an existing submission can never switch the main language in the current version. |
@nils-stefan-weiher, can you describe some use cases for this? Why would an author choose the "wrong" primary language, and under what circumstances would someone (author, editor, etc) want to change it? |
Issue descriptionIf a journal allows submissions in more than one language, it's possible to select the language of a submission when making the submission. This is saved to the submission object and affects which language is required in metadata form fields. However, once submitted, there's no way to change the submission’s/publication's language. The language of the submission is also completely hidden in the UI and can be only guessed by looking at the active metadata fields and content. Changes
QuestionsQ: We might need to consider moving locale setting from Submission to Publication (discussed with Alec) The attached PR's includes the following code changes:
PRs: |
Hey @librariam @nils-stefan-weiher @pmangahis. In your experience, when is this feature usually required:
Also, we are considering how likely it would be that when an editor wants to change the language, they start by creating a new version? The reason why we are asking is that the locale setting at the moment is stored in the Submission object. This means that if we want to keep it there, only options 1 and 2 above are possible. With option 3 we would need to move the locale setting from Submission to Publication and this will likely have a lot of implications. |
The issue of being unable to see the submission languages has come up for clients when a journal accepts submissions in multiple languages and then decides to change this. They then run into the issue of being unable to edit the existing metadata information because the language of submission has been turned off. There is no way for the Editors to see this on the front end, and the Systems would be required to look in the database to see what the original language was and manually update it to allow them to update It would also be helpful to see this during the submission process. Particularly when trying to decide who to send the review to. We've received feedback from multilingual journals that requests have been sent to reviewers who don't speak the language of submission. It is a pretty easy mistake to make when they cannot see that the author has pre-filled the submission language and metadata in multiple languages. |
Thanks @pmangahis. So it seems that the issue in your case has been mostly the inability to see the submission language during the process. This is also being considered here in addition to allowing editors to change the primary locale of a submission. For the related issue, not able to see metadata for locale that has been turned off, we are working on an improvement where the forms are always accessible for the languages that have been used in the submission regardless of the settings. See #9425 |
Please let me know if this issue has been resolved in OJS 3.3.010. |
hi @MiKoko856, no this is an open issue we are working on now. |
Hi @ajnyga, it is a great pity. Is it already possible to determine in which version of OJS this serious problem will be solved? |
If you are in a hurry, you can edit this directly in your DB. But please don't rush the developers. Cheers, |
@MiKoko856, we expect it'll be possible to change the submission language in OMP/OPS/OJS 3.5, which is the next major release. But can you describe your use case for changing the metadata? For example, is it due to a change in journal policy ("we no longer support language XYZ but want to continue existing submissions"), author error (selecting the wrong language), or something else? |
All PRs from here #5502 (comment) are merged. |
…w page, migrate e2e test
migration to new workflow page: |
#4463) * pkp/pkp-lib#5502 Migrate change language functionality to new workflow page, migrate e2e test * Clean up comment
Tested and everything seems to be OK, thus closing... |
Describe the bug
If a journal allows submissions in more than one language, it's possible to select the language of a submission when making the submission. This is saved to the publication object and effects which locale is required in multilingual form fields. However, once submitted, there's no way to change the publication's locale.
To Reproduce
Steps to reproduce the behavior:
What application are you using?
OJS/OMP 3.2 (
master
pre-release)Additional information
It probably makes the most sense to add a language field to the metadata forms. See #5000 for related work that needs to be done on language metadata.
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