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Add light/dark mode preference #5324
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The tile screen didn't need dimming; it makes it difficult to read. |
I agree, there needs to be a config option. |
There should be absolutely no image or map dimming. It just reduces readability. Just leaving this comment here so an option is NOT created for it. The dimming shouldn’t be a thing. |
It darkens the map background, which also dims the map. and no option to disable dark mode on the page. |
Having a dark menu bar is nice, but simply dimming the map is just not acceptable. Maybe as a first step towards a truly dark mode, but please, please, please make it easy for the user to switch back to light mode. |
We need this option, until the dark mode improves, otherwise the visibility of the map and its use is reduced. |
Please keep discussions here related to having an option to enable or disable dark mode. The exact implementation of dark mode for the maps is off-topic for this issue. |
This would only apply to users who want to use dark mode in general, but not on OSM. Is this a large body of users? Could it be reduced with improvements to dark mode? |
For myself, I value the ability to turn off dark mode for individual sites entirely. When working on maps, I often cross reference images, notes and other information, most of which don't have a "dark mode" so the switching back and forth is jarring. |
I would have thought this would result in you turning off dark mode in general. What I'm interested in is why you want dark mode for everything else, but not for OSM. |
Not only OSM, but maps in general looks bad in dark mode. I have all my apps in dark mode except maps app. |
Because it dims the graphic screen! I think the obvious needs pointing out - this is on the front of house screen. it's the first thing newcomers see, and when I say "see" I really mean they can't see because it's too dark! I've thought about this since it's implementation & I'm struggling to comprehend how everybody involved in alpha & beta testing looked at the webpage in front of them & thought, 'yeah, that's a great way to promote OSM to the masses.' |
THIS EXACTLY. The menu dark is fine but the map itself should have a control or option or no dimming at all. I'd be happy to have all the rest of the hipsterprogrammerforcedoneverybody Dark Mode but don't DIM THE MAP!?!?? |
Exactly. That user has declared multiple interrelated microissues with strict "off topic" rules for each which is illogical and impractical. A "non-map-dimming dark mode issues" topic is reasonable but splitting up "how to dim maps when they are dimmed" and "UI for preferences/dimming control" and "whether or not to dim by default" etc. etc. into mini-issues while forbidding mention of any of the other considerations prevents normal and natural discussion of the best holistic solution. Which obviously is to create an easy and obvious user preference/dimming control of some sort instead of ivory tower deciding users should use what programmers think is best for them even if they hate it. Which is where we have ended up with the current lousy situation forced upon us. |
I want to clarify here that I didn't say that, I said "The exact implementation of dark mode for the maps is off-topic for this issue." What I mean is that it's not the right issue for discussing things like whether There's a lot of people want to discuss a lot of different aspects of dark mode (like 100 comments per day) so it's important that we don't mix every topic together otherwise nothing actionable will come of it. I know a lot of people don't like this, and would prefer a general discussion about everything all at once, but one of my roles as maintainer is to keep discussions on track towards things being decided and code being written. |
As for preferences, I'd like to hear from people what kind of preferences they would like to see. So far, across multiple different threads, I've seen the following:
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Dark theme toggle depends on system settings (just like now), but user can override it by pressing the toggle button in top left corner. The setting will be remembered in local storage. The map theme is set to Auto by default, which means it follows website's theme. But users can override that by selecting Light or Dark (it's for the whole map, it's not per layer). |
Adding onto @pkrasicki's proposal: .leaflet-tile-pane .leaflet-layer:not(.dark), .mapkey-table-entry td:first-child > * {
body:has(input[type="radio"][name="filter"][value="light"]:checked) & {
filter: none;
}
body:has(input[type="radio"][name="filter"][value="dim"]:checked) & {
filter: brightness(80%);
}
body:has(input[type="radio"][name="filter"][value="dark"]:checked) & {
filter: invert(95%)hue-rotate(180deg);
}
} And yes, this shouldn't be implemented like this, but I like the idea of the simplicity in this. Notably, this would also ensure usability for non-logged-in users. |
If that setting is stored in a cookie instead of in |
The solution to dark mode for the tiles isn't to dim the light mode tiles. It's to design and develop a dark version of the standard tile theme. This is approach taken by Google Maps and Apple Maps. |
However, for OSM's most prominent raster map, Carto, this isn't planned, as it's considered out of scope. gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto#5044 (comment) |
Thanks for your comments. Here is my proposal. (You can think of this as a hierarchy, where each line is an override for the previous step)
Here's some worked examples:
I hope this is clear and logical. This will allow a reasonable amount of control of how the site looks, respecting the browser settings by default but allowing people to override it if they want to. At this stage, I'm not proposing preferences for the following:
The reason that I'm not proposing these preferences right now, is that I'm not sure they are necessary, and I want to make progress and I hope that a more simplified system can be finished and tried out more quickly. At this stage, I'm also proposing:
This matches how github has implemented their preferences, and how we currently handle language preferences. So for example, your preferences would apply to all your own browers/devices, and will only take affect when logged in. Again, this is because I want to simplify the implementation and get it working more quickly. Now straight away I know that not everyone will be happy with this, and some people will want more preferences or have some use-case where they want dark mode on their phone and light mode on their desktop despite their browser settings or something similar. What I would like is for people to think whether my suggestion is a step in the right direction, and if we can get a rough consensus on that to get started. |
@gravitystorm Is 5 "let's make everyone use this particular filter in dark mode" (which filter?) or is it "let's make everyone have no filter until the cartographers let them have some filter"? |
Technically that depends on the discussion in #5328. It doesn't strictly matter how dark mode maps are implemented, in order to have this preference available and useful. But yes, since my preference is for cartographers to choose what each "light mode map" and "dark mode map" looks like, then if you choose the "map preference = dark", then you would see whatever the cartographers have chosen - whether that's implemented by filters or alternative tile urls or the same cartography for each mode. |
Should cartographers have the choice to use a specific style and a filter or is it an exclusive or? Because this would change how I would implement this choice. |
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. |
If a hillshaded map is featured in light mode, and the cartographers' decision for the dark mode variant is to have a light version of the style without hillshading be inverted by the browser. |
Problem
Browsers do not let you set a per-site dark mode preference. Some users do not want to use the new dark mode.
Description
A toggle similar to the Wikipedia appearance (see below). It should probably be accessible for users who are not logged in, as well.
Screenshots
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