diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/build.gradle.kts b/orx-mesh-generators/build.gradle.kts
index 452baa3fc..cea3718db 100644
--- a/orx-mesh-generators/build.gradle.kts
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/build.gradle.kts
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@ kotlin {
                 api(libs.openrndr.application)
                 api(libs.openrndr.math)
                 implementation(project(":orx-shapes"))
+                api(project(":orx-mesh"))
             }
         }
 
@@ -20,6 +21,7 @@ kotlin {
                 implementation(project(":orx-mesh-generators"))
                 implementation(project(":orx-camera"))
                 implementation(project(":orx-noise"))
+                implementation(project(":orx-obj-loader"))
             }
         }
     }
diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/decal/Decal.kt b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/decal/Decal.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..249deab60
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/decal/Decal.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,201 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.decal
+
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.*
+import org.openrndr.math.Matrix44
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+import kotlin.math.abs
+
+/**
+ * Create a decal mesh
+ * @param projectorMatrix
+ * @param size
+ */
+fun IMeshData.decal(
+    projectorMatrix: Matrix44,
+    size: Vector3
+): IVertexData {
+    require(isTriangular())
+
+    val projectorMatrixInverse = projectorMatrix.inversed
+
+    val positions = vertexData.positions.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.positions }).map {
+        (projectorMatrixInverse * (it.xyz1)).div
+    }
+    val normals = vertexData.normals.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.normals })
+    val textureCoords = vertexData.textureCoords.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.textureCoords })
+    val colors = vertexData.colors.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.colors })
+    val tangents = vertexData.tangents.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.tangents })
+    val bitangents = vertexData.bitangents.slice(polygons.flatMap { it.bitangents })
+
+    var decalVertices: IVertexData = VertexData(positions, textureCoords, colors, normals, tangents, bitangents)
+
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(1.0, 0.0, 0.0))
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(-1.0, 0.0, 0.0))
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(0.0, 1.0, 0.0))
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(0.0, -1.0, 0.0))
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(0.0, 0.0, 1.0))
+    decalVertices = decalVertices.clipToPlane(size, Vector3(0.0, 0.0, -1.0))
+
+
+    val decalMesh = MutableVertexData()
+    for (i in decalVertices.positions.indices) {
+        val v = decalVertices[i]
+
+        val w = v.copy(
+            position = (projectorMatrix * v.position.xyz1).div,
+            textureCoord = v.position.xy / size.xy + Vector2(0.5)
+        )
+        decalMesh.add(w)
+    }
+    return decalMesh
+}
+
+fun IVertexData.clipToPlane(
+    size: Vector3,
+    plane: Vector3
+): IVertexData {
+    val outVertices = MutableVertexData()
+    val s = 0.5 * abs(size.dot(plane))
+
+    fun clip(
+        v0: Point,
+        v1: Point, p: Vector3, s: Double
+    ): Point {
+
+        val d0 = v0.position.dot(p) - s;
+        val d1 = v1.position.dot(p) - s;
+
+        val s0 = d0 / (d0 - d1)
+
+        val v = Point(
+            v0.position + (v1.position - v0.position) * s0,
+            if (v0.textureCoord != null) {
+                v0.textureCoord!! + (v1.textureCoord!! - v0.textureCoord!!) * s0
+            } else {
+                null
+            },
+            if (v0.color != null) {
+                v0.color!! + (v1.color!! - v0.color!!) * s0
+            } else {
+                null
+            },
+            if (v0.normal != null) {
+                v0.normal!! + (v1.normal!! - v0.normal!!) * s0
+            } else {
+                null
+            },
+            if (v0.tangent != null) {
+                v0.tangent!! + (v1.tangent!! - v0.tangent!!) * s0
+            } else {
+                null
+            },
+            if (v0.bitangent != null) {
+                v0.bitangent!! + (v1.bitangent!! - v0.bitangent!!) * s0
+            } else {
+                null
+            }
+        )
+        return v
+    }
+
+    for (i in positions.indices step 3) {
+
+        val d1 = positions[i + 0].dot(plane) - s
+        val d2 = positions[i + 1].dot(plane) - s
+        val d3 = positions[i + 2].dot(plane) - s
+
+        val v1Out = d1 > 0
+        val v2Out = d2 > 0
+        val v3Out = d3 > 0
+
+        val total = (if (v1Out) 1 else 0) + (if (v2Out) 1 else 0) + (if (v3Out) 1 else 0)
+
+        when (total) {
+            0 -> {
+                outVertices.add(this[i])
+                outVertices.add(this[i + 1])
+                outVertices.add(this[i + 2])
+            }
+
+            1 -> {
+                if (v1Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i + 1]
+                    val nV2 = this[i + 2]
+                    val nV3 = clip(this[i], nV1, plane, s)
+                    val nV4 = clip(this[i], nV2, plane, s)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV4)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                }
+
+                if (v2Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i];
+                    val nV2 = this[i + 2];
+                    val nV3 = clip(this[i + 1], nV1, plane, s)
+                    val nV4 = clip(this[i + 1], nV2, plane, s)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                    outVertices.add(nV4)
+                }
+
+                if (v3Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i]
+                    val nV2 = this[i + 1]
+                    val nV3 = clip(this[i + 2], nV1, plane, s)
+                    val nV4 = clip(this[i + 2], nV2, plane, s)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+
+                    outVertices.add(nV4)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                }
+            }
+
+            2 -> {
+                if (!v1Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i]
+                    val nV2 = clip(nV1, this[i + 1], plane, s)
+                    val nV3 = clip(nV1, this[i + 2], plane, s)
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                }
+
+                if (!v2Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i + 1]
+                    val nV2 = clip(nV1, this[i + 2], plane, s)
+                    val nV3 = clip(nV1, this[i], plane, s)
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                }
+
+                if (!v3Out) {
+                    val nV1 = this[i + 2]
+                    val nV2 = clip(nV1, this[i], plane, s)
+                    val nV3 = clip(nV1, this[i + 1], plane, s)
+                    outVertices.add(nV1)
+                    outVertices.add(nV2)
+                    outVertices.add(nV3)
+                }
+            }
+            else -> {
+            }
+        }
+    }
+    return outVertices
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/normals/MeshDataNormals.kt b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/normals/MeshDataNormals.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..a9f34ec57
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/normals/MeshDataNormals.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,63 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.normals
+
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.IMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.IndexedPolygon
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.MeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.VertexData
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+
+/**
+ * Estimate per-vertex normals
+ */
+fun IMeshData.estimateNormals(): MeshData {
+    val normals = MutableList(vertexData.positions.size) { Vector3.ZERO }
+
+    for (polygon in polygons) {
+        for (p in polygon.positions) {
+            normals[p] += polygon.normal(vertexData)
+        }
+    }
+
+    for (i in normals.indices) {
+        normals[i] = normals[i].normalized
+    }
+
+    return MeshData(
+        VertexData(
+            vertexData.positions,
+            vertexData.textureCoords,
+            vertexData.colors,
+            normals,
+            vertexData.tangents,
+            vertexData.bitangents
+        ),
+        polygons.map {
+            IndexedPolygon(it.positions, it.textureCoords, it.colors, it.positions, it.tangents, it.bitangents)
+        })
+}
+
+/**
+ * Assign vertex normals based on face normals
+ */
+fun IMeshData.assignFaceNormals(): MeshData {
+    val normals = MutableList(polygons.size) { Vector3.ZERO }
+
+    for (i in polygons.indices) {
+        normals[i] = polygons[i].normal(vertexData)
+    }
+
+    return MeshData(
+        VertexData(
+            vertexData.positions,
+            vertexData.textureCoords,
+            vertexData.colors,
+            normals,
+            vertexData.tangents,
+            vertexData.bitangents
+        ),
+        polygons.mapIndexed { index, it ->
+            IndexedPolygon(it.positions, it.textureCoords, it.colors, it.positions.map {
+                index
+            }, it.tangents, it.bitangents)
+        })
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/tangents/MeshDataTangents.kt b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/tangents/MeshDataTangents.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..77cdf4559
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/src/commonMain/kotlin/tangents/MeshDataTangents.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,94 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.tangents
+
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.*
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+
+/**
+ * Estimate tangents from normals and texture coordinates
+ * https://terathon.com/blog/tangent-space.html
+ */
+fun IMeshData.estimateTangents(): MeshData {
+    require(vertexData.textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) {
+        "need texture coordinates to estimate tangents"
+    }
+    require(isTriangular()) {
+
+    }
+
+    val normals = MutableList(vertexData.positions.size) { Vector3.ZERO }
+
+    val tan1 = MutableList(vertexData.positions.size) { Vector3.ZERO }
+    val tan2 = MutableList(vertexData.positions.size) { Vector3.ZERO }
+    for (polygon in polygons) {
+        val v1 = vertexData.positions[polygon.positions[0]]
+        val v2 = vertexData.positions[polygon.positions[1]]
+        val v3 = vertexData.positions[polygon.positions[2]]
+
+        val w1 = vertexData.textureCoords[polygon.textureCoords[0]]
+        val w2 = vertexData.textureCoords[polygon.textureCoords[1]]
+        val w3 = vertexData.textureCoords[polygon.textureCoords[2]]
+
+        val x1 = (v2.x - v1.x)
+        val x2 = (v3.x - v1.x)
+        val y1 = (v2.y - v1.y)
+        val y2 = (v3.y - v1.y)
+        val z1 = (v2.z - v1.z)
+        val z2 = (v3.z - v1.z)
+
+        val s1 = (w2.x - w1.x)
+        val s2 = (w3.x - w1.x)
+        val t1 = (w2.y - w1.y)
+        val t2 = (w3.y - w1.y)
+
+        var det = s1 * t2 - s2 * t1
+        if (det == 0.0) det = 1.0
+        val r = 1.0/ (det)
+        val sdir = Vector3(
+            (t2 * x1 - t1 * x2) * r, (t2 * y1 - t1 * y2) * r,
+            (t2 * z1 - t1 * z2) * r
+        ).normalized
+        val tdir = Vector3(
+            (s1 * x2 - s2 * x1) * r, (s1 * y2 - s2 * y1) * r,
+            (s1 * z2 - s2 * z1) * r
+        ).normalized
+
+        tan1[polygon.positions[0]] += sdir
+        tan1[polygon.positions[1]] += sdir
+        tan1[polygon.positions[2]] += sdir
+
+        tan2[polygon.positions[0]] += tdir
+        tan2[polygon.positions[1]] += tdir
+        tan2[polygon.positions[2]] += tdir
+
+        normals[polygon.positions[0]] += vertexData.normals[polygon.normals[0]]
+        normals[polygon.positions[1]] += vertexData.normals[polygon.normals[1]]
+        normals[polygon.positions[2]] += vertexData.normals[polygon.normals[2]]
+
+    }
+
+    for (a in 0 until vertexData.positions.size) {
+        normals[a] = normals[a].normalized
+        tan1[a] = tan1[a].normalized
+        tan2[a] = tan2[a].normalized
+
+        val t = tan1[a]
+        val n = normals[a]
+
+        tan1[a] = (t - n * n.dot(t)).normalized
+        val w = if ((n.cross(t)).dot(tan2[a]) < 0.0f) -1.0 else 1.0
+        tan2[a] = n.cross((t)).normalized * w
+    }
+
+    return MeshData(VertexData(vertexData.positions, vertexData.textureCoords, vertexData.colors, normals, tan1, tan2),
+        polygons = polygons.map {
+            IndexedPolygon(
+                it.positions,
+                it.textureCoords,
+                it.colors,
+                normals = it.positions,
+                tangents = it.positions,
+                bitangents = it.positions
+            )
+        }
+    )
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal01.kt b/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal01.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..11f105278
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal01.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@
+package decal
+
+import org.openrndr.application
+import org.openrndr.draw.DrawPrimitive
+import org.openrndr.draw.shadeStyle
+import org.openrndr.extra.camera.Orbital
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.*
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.decal.decal
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+import org.openrndr.math.transforms.buildTransform
+import java.io.File
+
+/**
+ * Demonstrate decal generator as an object slicer
+ */
+fun main() {
+    application {
+        configure {
+            width = 720
+            height = 720
+        }
+        program {
+            val obj = loadOBJMeshData(File("demo-data/obj-models/suzanne/Suzanne.obj")).toMeshData().triangulate()
+
+            val slices = 25
+            val sliceStep = 0.1
+            val sliceWidth = 0.14
+
+            val sliceVBs = (0 until slices).map {
+                val projector = buildTransform {
+                    translate(0.0, 0.0, -1.0 + it * sliceStep)
+                }
+                val decal = obj.decal(projector, Vector3(4.0, 4.0, sliceWidth))
+                val vb = decal.toVertexBuffer()
+                vb
+            }
+
+            extend(Orbital()) {
+                eye = Vector3(0.0, 0.0, 2.0)
+            }
+            extend {
+                drawer.shadeStyle = shadeStyle {
+                    fragmentTransform = """x_fill.rgb = v_viewNormal.rgb * 0.5 + 0.5; """
+                }
+
+                drawer.translate(0.0, 0.0, slices * 0.5 * 0.5)
+                for (i in 0 until sliceVBs.size) {
+                    drawer.vertexBuffer(sliceVBs[i], DrawPrimitive.TRIANGLES)
+                    drawer.translate(0.0, 0.0, -0.5)
+                }
+            }
+        }
+    }
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal02.kt b/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal02.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..32c73a4a4
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh-generators/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/decal/DemoDecal02.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,86 @@
+package decal
+
+import org.openrndr.application
+import org.openrndr.draw.DrawPrimitive
+import org.openrndr.draw.isolated
+import org.openrndr.draw.shadeStyle
+import org.openrndr.extra.camera.Orbital
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.toVertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.decal.decal
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+import org.openrndr.math.transforms.buildTransform
+import java.io.File
+import kotlin.math.PI
+
+/**
+ * Demonstrate decal generation and rendering
+ */
+fun main() {
+    application {
+        configure {
+            width = 720
+            height = 720
+        }
+        program {
+            /** base object */
+            val obj = loadOBJMeshData(File("demo-data/obj-models/suzanne/Suzanne.obj"))
+                .toMeshData() // convert from CompoundMeshData to MeshData
+                .triangulate() // convert to triangles, we need this for the decal generation steps
+
+            /** object [VertexBuffer] */
+            val objVB = obj.toVertexBuffer()
+
+
+            /** positions for the decal projectors */
+            val decalPositions = listOf(
+                Vector3(0.35, 0.245, 0.8),
+                Vector3(-0.35, 0.245, 0.8)
+            )
+
+            /** decal vertex buffers */
+            val decalVBs = decalPositions.map {
+                val projector = buildTransform {
+                    translate(it)
+                }
+                val decal = obj.decal(projector, Vector3(2.0, 2.0, 0.5))
+                val vb = decal.toVertexBuffer()
+                vb
+            }
+
+            extend(Orbital()) {
+                eye = Vector3(0.0, 0.0, 2.0)
+            }
+            extend {
+                /* draw the base mesh */
+                drawer.isolated {
+                    drawer.shadeStyle = shadeStyle {
+                        fragmentTransform = """x_fill.rgb = vec3(v_viewNormal * 0.5 + 0.5); """
+                    }
+                    drawer.vertexBuffer(objVB, DrawPrimitive.TRIANGLES)
+                }
+
+                /* draw the decals */
+                drawer.isolated {
+                    for ((index, decal) in decalVBs.withIndex()) {
+                        /* offset the projection transform to avoid z-fighting */
+                        drawer.projection = buildTransform {
+                            translate(0.0, 0.0, -1e-4)
+                        } * drawer.projection
+
+                        /* draw effects on the decal geometry */
+                        drawer.shadeStyle = shadeStyle {
+                            fragmentTransform = """
+                                float d = length(va_texCoord0.xy - vec2(0.5));
+                                float sd = smoothstep(-0.01, 0.01, cos(p_time + d * 3.1415 * 2.0 * 10.0));
+                                float l = max(0.0, va_normal.z);
+                                x_fill = vec4(0.0, 0.0, 0.0, l * sd * 0.5); """
+                            parameter("time", seconds * PI * 2 + index * PI)
+                        }
+                        drawer.vertexBuffer(decal, DrawPrimitive.TRIANGLES)
+                    }
+                }
+            }
+        }
+    }
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh-noise/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoMeshNoise01.kt b/orx-mesh-noise/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoMeshNoise01.kt
index a2d7e497a..5aab85220 100644
--- a/orx-mesh-noise/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoMeshNoise01.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh-noise/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoMeshNoise01.kt
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ import org.openrndr.draw.DrawPrimitive
 import org.openrndr.draw.isolated
 import org.openrndr.draw.shadeStyle
 import org.openrndr.extra.camera.Orbital
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.loadOBJMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJMeshData
 import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.noise.uniform
 import org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.sphereMesh
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
diff --git a/orx-mesh/build.gradle.kts b/orx-mesh/build.gradle.kts
index 99247e9f4..03ebfeac9 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/build.gradle.kts
+++ b/orx-mesh/build.gradle.kts
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ kotlin {
                 api(libs.openrndr.shape)
                 implementation(project(":orx-shapes"))
                 implementation(project(":orx-mesh-generators"))
+                implementation(project(":orx-obj-loader"))
                 implementation(project(":orx-camera"))
                 implementation(project(":orx-noise"))
             }
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/CompoundMeshDataExtensions.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/CompoundMeshDataExtensions.kt
index 0df55f699..add6d7021 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/CompoundMeshDataExtensions.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/CompoundMeshDataExtensions.kt
@@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
 import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
 import org.openrndr.draw.vertexBuffer
 
+/**
+ * Write compound mesh data to [VertexBuffer]
+ */
 fun ICompoundMeshData.toVertexBuffer(): VertexBuffer {
     val triangulated = this.triangulate()
 
@@ -19,6 +22,9 @@ fun ICompoundMeshData.toVertexBuffer(): VertexBuffer {
     return vertexBuffer
 }
 
+/**
+ * Convert compound mesh data to [IPolygon] compounds
+ */
 fun ICompoundMeshData.toPolygons(): Map<String, List<IPolygon>> {
     return compounds.mapValues { it.value.toPolygons() }
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygon.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygon.kt
index da7222e36..8e1833bf6 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygon.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygon.kt
@@ -4,10 +4,7 @@ import org.openrndr.math.Matrix44
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector4
-import kotlin.math.PI
-import kotlin.math.abs
-import kotlin.math.atan2
-import kotlin.math.round
+import kotlin.math.*
 
 /**
  * Indexed polygon interface
@@ -133,6 +130,15 @@ interface IIndexedPolygon {
         return abs(round(angleSum / (2 * PI))) == 1.0
     }
 
+    /**
+     * Evaluate polygon normal
+     */
+    fun normal(vertexData: IVertexData) : Vector3 {
+        val u = vertexData.positions[positions[1]] - vertexData.positions[positions[0]]
+        val v = vertexData.positions[positions[2]] - vertexData.positions[positions[0]]
+        return u.cross(v).normalized
+    }
+
     /**
      * Convert to [IPolygon]
      * @param vertexData the vertex data required to build the [IPolygon]
@@ -146,12 +152,12 @@ interface IIndexedPolygon {
 data class IndexedPolygon(
     override val positions: List<Int>,
     override val textureCoords: List<Int>,
-    override val normals: List<Int>,
     override val colors: List<Int>,
+    override val normals: List<Int>,
     override val tangents: List<Int>,
     override val bitangents: List<Int>
 
-    ) : IIndexedPolygon {
+) : IIndexedPolygon {
 
     private fun tessellate(vertexData: IVertexData): List<IndexedPolygon> {
         val points = vertexData.positions.slice(positions.toList())
@@ -161,8 +167,8 @@ data class IndexedPolygon(
             IndexedPolygon(
                 positions.slice(it),
                 if (textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) textureCoords.slice(it) else listOf(),
-                if (normals.isNotEmpty()) normals.slice(it) else listOf(),
                 if (colors.isNotEmpty()) colors.slice(it) else listOf(),
+                if (normals.isNotEmpty()) normals.slice(it) else listOf(),
                 if (tangents.isNotEmpty()) tangents.slice(it) else listOf(),
                 if (bitangents.isNotEmpty()) bitangents.slice(it) else listOf()
             )
@@ -187,16 +193,16 @@ data class IndexedPolygon(
                             textureCoords.getOrNull(it),
                             textureCoords.getOrNull(it + 1)
                         ),
-                        listOfNotNull(
-                            normals.getOrNull(0),
-                            normals.getOrNull(it),
-                            normals.getOrNull(it + 1)
-                        ),
                         listOfNotNull(
                             colors.getOrNull(0),
                             colors.getOrNull(it + 1),
                             colors.getOrNull(it + 2)
                         ),
+                        listOfNotNull(
+                            normals.getOrNull(0),
+                            normals.getOrNull(it),
+                            normals.getOrNull(it + 1)
+                        ),
                         listOfNotNull(
                             tangents.getOrNull(0),
                             tangents.getOrNull(it + 1),
@@ -218,9 +224,39 @@ data class IndexedPolygon(
     override fun toPolygon(vertexData: IVertexData): Polygon {
         return Polygon(
             vertexData.positions.slice(positions),
-            vertexData.normals.slice(normals),
             vertexData.textureCoords.slice(textureCoords),
-            vertexData.colors.slice(colors)
+            vertexData.colors.slice(colors),
+            vertexData.normals.slice(normals),
+            vertexData.tangents.slice(tangents),
+            vertexData.bitangents.slice(bitangents)
+        )
+    }
+
+    /**
+     * Shift indices
+     * @param positions position index shift
+     * @param textureCoords texture coordinate index shift
+     * @param colors color index shift
+     * @param normals normal index shift
+     * @param tangents tangent index shift
+     * @param bitangents bitangent index shift
+     *
+     */
+    fun shiftIndices(
+        positions: Int = 0,
+        textureCoords: Int = 0,
+        colors: Int = 0,
+        normals: Int = 0,
+        tangents: Int = 0,
+        bitangents: Int = 0
+    ): IndexedPolygon {
+        return IndexedPolygon(
+            positions = this.positions.map { it + positions },
+            textureCoords = this.textureCoords.map { it + textureCoords },
+            colors = this.colors.map { it + colors },
+            normals = this.normals.map { it + normals },
+            tangents = this.tangents.map { it + tangents },
+            bitangents = this.bitangents.map { it + bitangents }
         )
     }
 }
@@ -240,9 +276,9 @@ data class MutableIndexedPolygon(
     override fun toPolygon(vertexData: IVertexData): MutablePolygon {
         return MutablePolygon(
             vertexData.positions.slice(positions).toMutableList(),
-            vertexData.normals.slice(normals).toMutableList(),
             vertexData.textureCoords.slice(textureCoords).toMutableList(),
-            vertexData.colors.slice(colors).toMutableList()
+            vertexData.colors.slice(colors).toMutableList(),
+            vertexData.normals.slice(normals).toMutableList()
         )
     }
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygonExtensions.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygonExtensions.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..cd8461a17
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/IndexedPolygonExtensions.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,33 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+
+import org.openrndr.math.LinearType
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+
+internal fun <T : LinearType<T>> bc(barycentric: Vector3, items: List<T>): T {
+    return (items[0] * barycentric.x) + (items[1] * barycentric.y) + (items[2] * barycentric.z)
+}
+
+/**
+ * Evaluate a point in triangle
+ * @param vertexData the vertex data to use
+ * @param barycentric the barycentric coordinates of the point to evaluate
+ */
+fun IIndexedPolygon.point(vertexData: VertexData, barycentric: Vector3): Point {
+    require(positions.size == 3)
+
+    val positions = vertexData.positions.slice(positions)
+    val colors = vertexData.colors.slice(colors)
+    val normals = vertexData.normals.slice(normals)
+    val tangents = vertexData.tangents.slice(tangents)
+    val bitangents = vertexData.bitangents.slice(bitangents)
+    val textureCoords = vertexData.textureCoords.slice(textureCoords)
+
+    return Point(
+        (if (positions.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, positions) else null)!!,
+        if (textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, textureCoords) else null,
+        if (colors.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, colors) else null,
+        if (normals.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, normals) else null,
+        if (tangents.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, tangents) else null,
+        if (bitangents.isNotEmpty()) bc(barycentric, bitangents) else null
+    )
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshData.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshData.kt
index d5446e08d..c013c15e8 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshData.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshData.kt
@@ -8,8 +8,26 @@ import kotlin.jvm.JvmRecord
 interface IMeshData {
     val vertexData: IVertexData
     val polygons: List<IIndexedPolygon>
+
+    /**
+     * Convert mesh data to triangular mesh data
+     */
     fun triangulate(): IMeshData
+
+    /**
+     * Convert mesh data to a list of [IPolygon]
+     */
     fun toPolygons(): List<IPolygon>
+
+    /**
+     * Join mesh data with [other] mesh data
+     */
+    fun join(other: IMeshData): IMeshData
+
+
+    fun toMeshData(): MeshData
+
+    fun toMutableMeshData() : MutableMeshData
 }
 
 /**
@@ -32,6 +50,94 @@ data class MeshData(
             ip.toPolygon(vertexData)
         }
     }
+
+    override fun join(other: IMeshData): IMeshData {
+        if (vertexData === other.vertexData) {
+            @Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
+            return MeshData(vertexData, polygons + (other.polygons as List<IndexedPolygon>))
+        } else {
+            val positionsShift: Int
+            val positions = if (vertexData.positions === other.vertexData.positions) {
+                positionsShift = 0
+                vertexData.positions
+            } else {
+                positionsShift = vertexData.positions.size
+                vertexData.positions + other.vertexData.positions
+            }
+
+            val textureCoordsShift: Int
+            val textureCoords = if (vertexData.textureCoords === other.vertexData.textureCoords) {
+                textureCoordsShift = 0
+                vertexData.textureCoords
+            } else {
+                textureCoordsShift = vertexData.textureCoords.size
+                vertexData.textureCoords + other.vertexData.textureCoords
+            }
+
+            val colorsShift: Int
+            val colors = if (vertexData.colors === other.vertexData.colors) {
+                colorsShift = 0
+                vertexData.colors
+            } else {
+                colorsShift = vertexData.colors.size
+                vertexData.colors + other.vertexData.colors
+            }
+
+            val normalsShift: Int
+            val normals = if (vertexData.normals === other.vertexData.normals) {
+                normalsShift = 0
+                vertexData.normals
+            } else {
+                normalsShift = vertexData.normals.size
+                vertexData.normals + other.vertexData.normals
+            }
+
+            val tangentsShift: Int
+            val tangents = if (vertexData.tangents === other.vertexData.tangents) {
+                tangentsShift = 0
+                vertexData.tangents
+            } else {
+                tangentsShift = vertexData.tangents.size
+                vertexData.tangents + other.vertexData.tangents
+            }
+
+            val bitangentsShift: Int
+            val bitangents = if (vertexData.bitangents === other.vertexData.bitangents) {
+                bitangentsShift = 0
+                vertexData.bitangents
+            } else {
+                bitangentsShift = vertexData.bitangents.size
+                vertexData.bitangents + other.vertexData.bitangents
+            }
+
+            return MeshData(
+                VertexData(
+                    positions = positions,
+                    textureCoords = textureCoords,
+                    colors = colors,
+                    normals = normals,
+                    tangents = tangents,
+                    bitangents = bitangents
+                ),
+                polygons + other.polygons.map {
+                    (it as IndexedPolygon).shiftIndices(
+                        positionsShift,
+                        textureCoordsShift,
+                        colorsShift,
+                        normalsShift,
+                        tangentsShift,
+                        bitangentsShift
+                    )
+                }
+            )
+        }
+    }
+
+    override fun toMeshData(): MeshData = this
+
+    override fun toMutableMeshData(): MutableMeshData {
+        TODO("Not yet implemented")
+    }
 }
 
 
@@ -53,4 +159,16 @@ data class MutableMeshData(
     override fun toPolygons(): List<Polygon> {
         return polygons.map { it.toPolygon(vertexData) }
     }
+
+    override fun join(other: IMeshData): IMeshData {
+        TODO("Not yet implemented")
+    }
+
+    override fun toMutableMeshData(): MutableMeshData {
+return this
+    }
+
+    override fun toMeshData(): MeshData {
+        TODO("Not yet implemented")
+    }
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshDataExtensions.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshDataExtensions.kt
index 089a07409..b93f9585e 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshDataExtensions.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/MeshDataExtensions.kt
@@ -1,11 +1,8 @@
 package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
 
 import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
-import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
-import org.openrndr.draw.VertexFormat
-import org.openrndr.draw.vertexBuffer
-import org.openrndr.draw.vertexFormat
-import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
+import org.openrndr.draw.*
+import org.openrndr.math.*
 
 /**
  * The [VertexFormat] for a [VertexBuffer] with positions, normals and texture coordinates.
@@ -17,6 +14,16 @@ internal val objVertexFormat = vertexFormat {
     color(4)
 }
 
+internal val objVertexFormatTangents = vertexFormat {
+    position(3)
+    normal(3)
+    textureCoordinate(2)
+    color(4)
+    attribute("tangent", VertexElementType.VECTOR3_FLOAT32)
+    attribute("bitangent", VertexElementType.VECTOR3_FLOAT32)
+}
+
+
 /**
  * Determine if [IMeshData] is triangular by checking if each polygon has exactly 3 vertices
  */
@@ -30,11 +37,15 @@ fun IMeshData.isTriangular(): Boolean {
 fun IMeshData.toVertexBuffer(elementOffset: Int = 0, vertexBuffer: VertexBuffer? = null): VertexBuffer {
     val objects = triangulate().toPolygons()
     val triangleCount = objects.size
-    val vertexBuffer = vertexBuffer ?: vertexBuffer(objVertexFormat, triangleCount * 3)
+
+    val format = if (vertexData.tangents.isNotEmpty() && vertexData.bitangents.isNotEmpty()) {
+        objVertexFormatTangents
+    } else objVertexFormat
+
+    val vertexBuffer = vertexBuffer ?: vertexBuffer(format, triangleCount * 3)
 
     vertexBuffer.put(elementOffset) {
         objects.forEach {
-
             for (i in it.positions.indices) {
                 write(it.positions[i])
                 if (it.normals.isNotEmpty()) {
@@ -54,9 +65,164 @@ fun IMeshData.toVertexBuffer(elementOffset: Int = 0, vertexBuffer: VertexBuffer?
                 } else {
                     write(ColorRGBa.WHITE)
                 }
+                if (format == objVertexFormatTangents) {
+                    write(it.tangents[i])
+                    write(it.bitangents[i])
+                }
             }
         }
     }
     vertexBuffer.shadow.destroy()
     return vertexBuffer
+}
+
+/**
+ * Weld vertices
+ * @param positionFractBits number of bits to use for fractional representation, negative amount to skip welding
+ */
+fun IMeshData.weld(
+    positionFractBits: Int,
+    textureCoordFractBits: Int = -1,
+    colorFractBits: Int = -1,
+    normalFractBits: Int = -1,
+    tangentFractBits: Int = -1,
+    bitangentFractBits: Int = -1
+): MeshData {
+
+    fun MutableMap<IntVector3, Int>.quantize(v: Vector3, bits: Int): Int =
+        getOrPut((v * (1 shl bits).toDouble()).toInt()) { this.size }
+
+    fun MutableMap<IntVector2, Int>.quantize(v: Vector2, bits: Int): Int =
+        getOrPut((v * (1 shl bits).toDouble()).toInt()) { this.size }
+
+    fun MutableMap<IntVector4, Int>.quantize(v: Vector4, bits: Int): Int =
+        getOrPut((v * (1 shl bits).toDouble()).toInt()) { this.size }
+
+    val positionMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector3, Int>()
+    val textureCoordMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector2, Int>()
+    val colorMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector4, Int>()
+    val normalMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector3, Int>()
+    val tangentMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector3, Int>()
+    val bitangentMap = mutableMapOf<IntVector3, Int>()
+
+    if (positionFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.positions) {
+            positionMap.quantize(p, positionFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    if (textureCoordFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.textureCoords) {
+            textureCoordMap.quantize(p, textureCoordFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    if (colorFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.colors) {
+            colorMap.quantize(p.toVector4(), colorFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    if (normalFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.normals) {
+            normalMap.quantize(p, normalFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    if (tangentFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.tangents) {
+            tangentMap.quantize(p, tangentFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    if (bitangentFractBits >= 0) {
+        for (p in vertexData.bitangents) {
+            bitangentMap.quantize(p, bitangentFractBits)
+        }
+    }
+
+    val reindexedPolygons = mutableListOf<IndexedPolygon>()
+
+    for (polygon in polygons) {
+        val positions = if (positionFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.positions.slice(polygon.positions).map { positionMap.quantize(it, positionFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.positions
+        }
+
+        val textureCoords = if (textureCoordFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.textureCoords.slice(polygon.textureCoords)
+                .map { textureCoordMap.quantize(it, textureCoordFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.textureCoords
+        }
+
+        val colors = if (colorFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.colors.slice(polygon.colors).map { colorMap.quantize(it.toVector4(), colorFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.colors
+        }
+
+        val normals = if (normalFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.normals.slice(polygon.normals).map { normalMap.quantize(it, normalFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.normals
+        }
+
+        val tangents = if (tangentFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.tangents.slice(polygon.tangents).map { tangentMap.quantize(it, tangentFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.tangents
+        }
+
+        val bitangents = if (bitangentFractBits >= 0) {
+            vertexData.bitangents.slice(polygon.bitangents).map { bitangentMap.quantize(it, bitangentFractBits) }
+        } else {
+            polygon.bitangents
+        }
+
+        reindexedPolygons.add(IndexedPolygon(positions, textureCoords, colors, normals, tangents, bitangents))
+    }
+
+    val positionByIndex = vertexData.positions.associateBy { positionMap.quantize(it, positionFractBits) }
+    val textureCoordByIndex =
+        vertexData.textureCoords.associateBy { textureCoordMap.quantize(it, textureCoordFractBits) }
+    val colorByIndex = vertexData.colors.associateBy { colorMap.quantize(it.toVector4(), colorFractBits) }
+    val normalByIndex = vertexData.normals.associateBy { normalMap.quantize(it, normalFractBits) }
+    val tangentByIndex = vertexData.tangents.associateBy { tangentMap.quantize(it, tangentFractBits) }
+    val bitangentByIndex = vertexData.bitangents.associateBy { bitangentMap.quantize(it, bitangentFractBits) }
+
+    val reindexedVertexData = VertexData(
+        if (positionFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until positionByIndex.size).map { positionByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.positions
+        },
+        if (textureCoordFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until textureCoordByIndex.size).map { textureCoordByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.textureCoords
+        },
+        if (colorFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until colorByIndex.size).map { colorByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.colors
+        },
+        if (normalFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until normalByIndex.size).map { normalByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.normals
+        },
+        if (tangentFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until tangentByIndex.size).map { tangentByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.tangents
+        },
+        if (bitangentFractBits >= 0) {
+            (0 until bitangentByIndex.size).map { bitangentByIndex.getValue(it) }
+        } else {
+            vertexData.bitangents
+        }
+    )
+    return MeshData(reindexedVertexData, reindexedPolygons)
 }
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diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Point.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Point.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..4a8b53968
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Point.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,23 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+
+import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+
+/**
+ * Point with optional attributes
+ * @param position position attribute
+ * @param textureCoord optional texture coordinate attribute
+ * @param color optional color attribute
+ * @param normal optional normal attribute
+ * @param tangent optional tangent attribute
+ * @param bitangent optional bitangent attribute
+ */
+data class Point(
+    val position: Vector3,
+    val textureCoord: Vector2? = null,
+    val color: ColorRGBa? = null,
+    val normal: Vector3? = null,
+    val tangent: Vector3? = null,
+    val bitangent: Vector3? =null
+)
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Polygon.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Polygon.kt
index dd42f2b91..c494a0a63 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Polygon.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Polygon.kt
@@ -14,9 +14,9 @@ import kotlin.math.min
  */
 interface IPolygon {
     val positions: List<Vector3>
-    val normals: List<Vector3>
     val textureCoords: List<Vector2>
     val colors: List<ColorRGBa>
+    val normals: List<Vector3>
     val tangents: List<Vector3>
     val bitangents: List<Vector3>
 
@@ -33,14 +33,14 @@ interface IPolygon {
  */
 class Polygon(
     override val positions: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
-    override val normals: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val textureCoords: List<Vector2> = emptyList(),
     override val colors: List<ColorRGBa> = emptyList(),
+    override val normals: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val tangents: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val bitangents: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
 ) : IPolygon {
     override fun transform(t: Matrix44): Polygon {
-        return Polygon(positions.map { (t * it.xyz1).div }, normals, textureCoords, colors, tangents, bitangents)
+        return Polygon(positions.map { (t * it.xyz1).div }, textureCoords, colors, normals, tangents, bitangents)
     }
 
     /**
@@ -49,9 +49,9 @@ class Polygon(
     fun toMutablePolygon(): MutablePolygon {
         return MutablePolygon(
             positions.toMutableList(),
-            normals.toMutableList(),
             textureCoords.toMutableList(),
             colors.toMutableList(),
+            normals.toMutableList(),
             tangents.toMutableList(),
             bitangents.toMutableList()
         )
@@ -63,9 +63,9 @@ class Polygon(
  */
 class MutablePolygon(
     override val positions: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
-    override val normals: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val textureCoords: MutableList<Vector2> = mutableListOf(),
     override val colors: MutableList<ColorRGBa> = mutableListOf(),
+    override val normals: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val tangents: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val bitangents: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf()
 
@@ -73,9 +73,9 @@ class MutablePolygon(
     override fun transform(t: Matrix44): MutablePolygon {
         return MutablePolygon(
             positions.map { (t * it.xyz1).div }.toMutableList(),
-            ArrayList(normals),
             ArrayList(textureCoords),
             ArrayList(colors),
+            ArrayList(normals),
             ArrayList(tangents),
             ArrayList(bitangents)
         )
@@ -136,8 +136,8 @@ fun List<IPolygon>.toMeshData(): MeshData {
             IndexedPolygon(
                 positions = indices,
                 textureCoords = if (p.textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
-                normals = if (p.normals.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
                 colors = if (p.colors.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
+                normals = if (p.normals.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
                 tangents = if (p.tangents.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
                 bitangents = if (p.bitangents.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList()
             )
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexData.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexData.kt
index 961900b11..dee29ff13 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexData.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexData.kt
@@ -13,11 +13,6 @@ interface IVertexData {
      */
     val positions: List<Vector3>
 
-    /**
-     * Vertex normals
-     */
-    val normals: List<Vector3>
-
     /**
      * Vertex texture coordinates
      */
@@ -28,6 +23,11 @@ interface IVertexData {
      */
     val colors: List<ColorRGBa>
 
+    /**
+     * Vertex normals
+     */
+    val normals: List<Vector3>
+
     /**
      * Vertex tangents
      */
@@ -37,6 +37,16 @@ interface IVertexData {
      * Vertex bitangents
      */
     val bitangents: List<Vector3>
+
+    /**
+     * Convert to [VertexData]
+     */
+    fun toVertexData() : VertexData
+
+    /**
+     * Convert to [MutableVertexData]
+     */
+    fun toMutableVertexData() : MutableVertexData
 }
 
 /**
@@ -44,26 +54,23 @@ interface IVertexData {
  */
 class VertexData(
     override val positions: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
-    override val normals: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val textureCoords: List<Vector2> = emptyList(),
     override val colors: List<ColorRGBa> = emptyList(),
+    override val normals: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val tangents: List<Vector3> = emptyList(),
     override val bitangents: List<Vector3> = emptyList()
 ) : IVertexData {
 
-    /**
-     * Convert to [MutableVertexData]
-     */
-    fun toMutableVertexData(): MutableVertexData {
-        return MutableVertexData(
-            positions.toMutableList(),
-            normals.toMutableList(),
-            textureCoords.toMutableList(),
-            colors.toMutableList(),
-            tangents.toMutableList(),
-            bitangents.toMutableList()
-        )
-    }
+    override fun toVertexData(): VertexData = this
+
+    override fun toMutableVertexData(): MutableVertexData = MutableVertexData(
+        positions.toMutableList(),
+        textureCoords.toMutableList(),
+        colors.toMutableList(),
+        normals.toMutableList(),
+        tangents.toMutableList(),
+        bitangents.toMutableList()
+    )
 }
 
 
@@ -72,24 +79,54 @@ class VertexData(
  */
 class MutableVertexData(
     override val positions: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
-    override val normals: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val textureCoords: MutableList<Vector2> = mutableListOf(),
     override val colors: MutableList<ColorRGBa> = mutableListOf(),
+    override val normals: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val tangents: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf(),
     override val bitangents: MutableList<Vector3> = mutableListOf()
 ) : IVertexData {
 
-    /**
-     * Convert to [VertexData]
-     */
-    fun toVertexData(): VertexData {
-        return VertexData(
-            positions.toList(),
-            normals.toList(),
-            textureCoords.toList(),
-            colors.toList(),
-            tangents.toList(),
-            bitangents.toList()
-        )
-    }
+    override fun toVertexData(): VertexData = VertexData(
+        positions.toList(),
+        textureCoords.toList(),
+        colors.toList(),
+        normals.toList(),
+        tangents.toList(),
+        bitangents.toList()
+    )
+
+    override fun toMutableVertexData(): MutableVertexData = this
+}
+
+/**
+ * Add [point] to vertex data
+ */
+fun MutableVertexData.add(point: Point) {
+    positions.add(point.position)
+    point.color?.let { colors.add(it) }
+    point.textureCoord?.let { textureCoords.add(it) }
+    point.normal?.let { normals.add(it) }
+    point.tangent?.let { tangents.add(it) }
+    point.bitangent?.let { bitangents.add(it) }
+}
+
+/**
+ * Retrieve [Point] from vertex data
+ */
+operator fun IVertexData.get(
+    index: Int,
+    textureCoordsIndex: Int = index,
+    colorsIndex: Int = index,
+    normalsIndex: Int = index,
+    tangentsIndex: Int = index,
+    bitangentsIndex: Int = index
+): Point {
+    return Point(
+        positions[index],
+        textureCoords.getOrNull(textureCoordsIndex),
+        colors.getOrNull(colorsIndex),
+        normals.getOrNull(normalsIndex),
+        tangents.getOrNull(tangentsIndex),
+        bitangents.getOrNull(bitangentsIndex)
+    )
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexDataExtensions.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexDataExtensions.kt
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..6aab82a5b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/VertexDataExtensions.kt
@@ -0,0 +1,68 @@
+package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+
+import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
+import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.draw.vertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
+import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
+
+/**
+ * Convert vertex data to [VertexBuffer]. Assumes every 3 consecutive vertices encode a triangle.
+ */
+fun IVertexData.toVertexBuffer(elementOffset: Int = 0, vertexBuffer: VertexBuffer? = null): VertexBuffer {
+
+    val triangleCount = positions.size / 3
+    val vertexBuffer = vertexBuffer ?: vertexBuffer(objVertexFormat, triangleCount * 3)
+
+    vertexBuffer.put(elementOffset) {
+        var offset = 0
+        for (triangle in 0 until triangleCount) {
+            for (i in 0 until 3) {
+                write(positions[offset])
+                if (normals.isNotEmpty()) {
+                    write(normals[offset])
+                } else {
+                    write(Vector3.ZERO)
+                }
+                if (textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) {
+                    write(textureCoords[offset])
+                } else {
+                    write(Vector2.ZERO)
+                }
+                if (colors.isNotEmpty()) {
+                    write(colors[offset])
+                } else {
+                    write(ColorRGBa.WHITE)
+                }
+                offset++
+            }
+        }
+    }
+    vertexBuffer.shadow.destroy()
+    return vertexBuffer
+}
+
+/**
+ * Convert vertex data to [MeshData]. Assumes every 3 consecutive vertices encode a triangle.
+ */
+
+fun VertexData.toMeshData(): MeshData {
+    val polygons = mutableListOf<IndexedPolygon>()
+
+    val triangleCount = positions.size / 3
+
+    for (t in 0 until triangleCount) {
+        val indices = listOf(t * 3, t * 3 + 1, t * 3 + 2)
+        polygons.add(
+            IndexedPolygon(
+                indices,
+                if (textureCoords.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
+                if (colors.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
+                if (normals.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
+                if (tangents.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList(),
+                if (bitangents.isNotEmpty()) indices else emptyList()
+            )
+        )
+    }
+    return MeshData(this, polygons)
+}
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Wireframe.kt b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Wireframe.kt
index 4209b6cdc..f8711d9ab 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Wireframe.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/commonMain/kotlin/Wireframe.kt
@@ -9,7 +9,6 @@ fun IMeshData.wireframe(): List<List<Vector3>> {
     return polygons.map { ip -> ip.toPolygon(this.vertexData).positions.toList() }
 }
 
-
 /**
  * Extract wireframe from compound mesh data
  */
diff --git a/orx-mesh/src/jvmMain/kotlin/VertexBufferExtensions.kt b/orx-mesh/src/jvmMain/kotlin/VertexBufferExtensions.kt
index f6ff329d7..cf6e87a3c 100644
--- a/orx-mesh/src/jvmMain/kotlin/VertexBufferExtensions.kt
+++ b/orx-mesh/src/jvmMain/kotlin/VertexBufferExtensions.kt
@@ -2,8 +2,6 @@ package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
 
 import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
 import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.Polygon
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.objVertexFormat
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
 import java.nio.ByteBuffer
@@ -53,7 +51,7 @@ fun VertexBuffer.toPolygons(vertexCount: Int = this.vertexCount): List<Polygon>
             textureCoordinates.add(buffer.getVector2())
             colors.add(buffer.getColorRGBa())
         }
-        polygons.add(Polygon(positions, normals, textureCoordinates, colors))
+        polygons.add(Polygon(positions, textureCoordinates, colors, normals))
     }
     return polygons
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjReader.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjReader.kt
index 1057670fb..98420fa4b 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjReader.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjReader.kt
@@ -1,7 +1,8 @@
-package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+package org.openrndr.extra.objloader
 
 import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
 import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.*
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector2
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
 
@@ -79,8 +80,8 @@ fun readObjMeshData(lines: Iterable<String>): CompoundMeshData {
                             IndexedPolygon(
                                 if (hasPosition) indices.map { it[0] - 1 } else listOf(),
                                 if (hasUV) indices.map { it[1] - 1 } else listOf(),
-                                if (hasNormal) indices.map { it[2] - 1 } else listOf(),
                                 if (hasColor) indices.map { it[0] - 1 } else listOf(),
+                                if (hasNormal) indices.map { it[2] - 1 } else listOf(),
                                 if (hasTangents) indices.map { it[2] - 1 } else listOf(),
                                 if (hasBitangents) indices.map { it[2] - 1 } else listOf()
                             )
@@ -95,7 +96,7 @@ fun readObjMeshData(lines: Iterable<String>): CompoundMeshData {
         }
     }
 
-    val vertexData = VertexData(positions, normals, textureCoords, colors)
+    val vertexData = VertexData(positions, textureCoords, colors, normals)
     return CompoundMeshData(
         vertexData,
         meshes.mapValues {
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjWriter.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjWriter.kt
index 892ff8bb9..1448a43f5 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjWriter.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/commonMain/kotlin/ObjWriter.kt
@@ -1,4 +1,6 @@
-package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+package org.openrndr.extra.objloader
+
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.ICompoundMeshData
 
 /**
  * Convert mesh data to Wavefront OBJ representation
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjCompoundRW01.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjCompoundRW01.kt
index 0e048e9f2..79701f22b 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjCompoundRW01.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjCompoundRW01.kt
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 import org.openrndr.application
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.loadOBJMeshData
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.toObj
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.toObj
 import java.io.File
 
 fun main() {
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjLoader01.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjLoader01.kt
index dbf42ef2e..470f52459 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjLoader01.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjLoader01.kt
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ import org.openrndr.color.ColorRGBa
 import org.openrndr.draw.DepthTestPass
 import org.openrndr.draw.DrawPrimitive
 import org.openrndr.draw.shadeStyle
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
 
 fun main() = application {
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver01.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver01.kt
index 5ae0145b8..68bef7b1a 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver01.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver01.kt
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 import org.openrndr.application
 import org.openrndr.draw.loadFont
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.saveOBJ
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.saveOBJ
 
 fun main() = application {
     configure {
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver02.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver02.kt
index 8361a35b9..6277e4c5f 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver02.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoObjSaver02.kt
@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ import org.openrndr.application
 import org.openrndr.draw.loadFont
 import org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.buildTriangleMesh
 import org.openrndr.extra.meshgenerators.sphere
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.saveOBJ
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.saveOBJ
 
 fun main() = application {
     configure {
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoWireframe01.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoWireframe01.kt
index 190bea5df..85c82524e 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoWireframe01.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmDemo/kotlin/DemoWireframe01.kt
@@ -8,8 +8,8 @@ import org.openrndr.draw.DrawPrimitive
 import org.openrndr.draw.TransformTarget
 import org.openrndr.draw.shadeStyle
 import org.openrndr.extra.camera.Orbital
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.readObjMeshData
-import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.readObjMeshData
+import org.openrndr.extra.objloader.loadOBJasVertexBuffer
 import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.wireframe
 import org.openrndr.math.Vector3
 import org.openrndr.shape.Path3D
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJLoader.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJLoader.kt
index f8479d163..4588c1db5 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJLoader.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJLoader.kt
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
-package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+package org.openrndr.extra.objloader
 
 import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
+import org.openrndr.extra.mesh.IPolygon
 import java.io.File
 import java.net.MalformedURLException
 import java.net.URL
diff --git a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJSaver.kt b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJSaver.kt
index 66c21aed6..4597b6429 100644
--- a/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJSaver.kt
+++ b/orx-obj-loader/src/jvmMain/kotlin/OBJSaver.kt
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-package org.openrndr.extra.mesh
+package org.openrndr.extra.objloader
 
 import org.openrndr.draw.VertexBuffer
 import java.io.File