Meeting minutes August and September

[tschmidtb51]

I found that we are missing the meeting minutes from August and September.

@santosomar / @justmurphy: Could you please check whether those minutes were recorded somewhere and if so, present the meeting minutes as pull request?

[santosomar]

Raw notes from Webex AI notes. I will convert these into meeting minutes shortly.

OpenEoX TC Monthly Meeting 2024-08-21

Attendees:

• Jay White
• Denny Page
• Thomas Schaffer
• Feng Cao
• Omar Santos
• Kris Vandecruys
• Harin Sarda
• Thomas Schmidt
• Justin Murphy
• Thomas Schaffer
• Stefan Arntzen
• Przemek / Rogue
• Omar Santos
• Pablo Quiroga

The meeting focused on creating definitions for end of sales and end of life, including the need for a generic definition that covers both hardware and software.

• The team discussed creating a definition for software and hardware end of sales, and decided to use one broader definition that covers both scenarios.
• They identified the need to define the term "vendor" and discussed integrating the concept of "product family" into the schema.
• There was a suggestion to use "May" instead of "can" in the standard, and questions were raised about whether cloud services should be covered by open UX.
• There is a concern about random CNAs reporting vulnerabilities without discussing them with project maintainers.
• The definition of "vendor" is being discussed, including the need for an official list and entity claiming product IDs.
• The end of sales definition excludes open-source projects without sales, and downstream providers may have different end of sales dates.
• The definition of "end of sales" should include the last order date, which is more important for customers.
• When a company is acquired or changes ownership, they should update their open UX documents to reflect the change.
• The end of sales definition should apply to both software and hardware.
• There are two types of end of life: one where someone doesn't want to continue and one where they are unable to continue.
• The meeting discussed the need for a generic end of life definition that covers both hardware and software.
• The team agreed to remove the software part from the proposed definition and focus on a generic end of life definition.

OpenEoX TC Monthly Meeting 2024-07-17

Attendees:

• Thomas Schaffer
• Thomas Schmidt
• Martin Prpic
• Przemek / Rogue
• Sonny van Lingen
• Kris Vandecruys
• Justin Murphy
• Feng Cao
• Omar Santos
• Denny Page
• Stefan Arntzen

The meeting focused on the need to define separate end of sales criteria for software and hardware, emphasizing the importance of authoritative documentation from the provider and acknowledging the complexity of hardware due to stock limitations.

• The meeting discussed the need to define the end of sales for software and hardware separately.
• There was a suggestion to start by defining solid definitions for full support, end of support, end of sales, and end of life.
• It was acknowledged that hardware and software have differences in terms of their end of sales, with hardware being more complex due to stock limitations.
• The participants agreed that focusing on smaller scopes and gradually expanding would lead to better definitions.
• The participants are discussing the need to define "end of sales" and "end of life" separately in the scope.
• They agree to remove the title of the scope that includes both terms.
• There is a discussion about how resellers may still sell products even after they are no longer available from the vendor.
• They discuss the importance of authoritative open EOX documents coming from the vendor, not resellers.
• The meeting discussed the definition of supply chain and clarified that even if a product is no longer available from the vendor, it may still be sold by others.
• There was a suggestion to replace the term "vendor" with "provider" to make the definition more general.
• The team discussed prioritizing the next steps in defining end of life and end of sales for software and hardware products.