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Public Open Space validation #415
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Thanks for opening this issue @ryn-trnr ; this will be important to explore and find solutions for. It is possible for users to customise the configuration file that defines various aspects that are used in identifying public open space. This file is provided as a template, that is copied over when users first run the software to the process/configuration folder. It could be that we could add an option to provide over-rides on a per-city basis within a region's configuration file; I think that could be a good approach that would be easy to implement. A user could conduct sensitivity analysis pre- and post-change (like described on our website here). So, there are some existing references to ' On the above line that identifies the kinds of land uses that may indicate open space (in conjunction with other checks), there is this caveat re natural=wood:
So, clearly this tag has been explored below (I should do search of offline/online notes) This is the part where The above contains this explanation about wood,
This method of identifying public areas was initially developed based on case studies of Australian cities as part of the Australian National Liveability Study (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41597-023-02013-5), and subsequently adapted to identify public open space across international cities working with local collaborators as part of the 25 cities global indicators study (described in https://doi.org/10.1111/gean.12290 and https://doi.org/10.1016/S2214-109X(22)00072-9). It is not surprising that as we expand to more cities additional modifications required to meet validation checks are identified; this is why we have the approach with configuration files provided as templates, but copied to a separate folders for users to modify while retaining the original template. I think useful things will be:
Cities where this is an issue can already have their open street map configuration file modified to evaluate whether modifications make identification of public open spaces more accurate. I am happy to provide guidance on how to do this. What we can do is make it easier for this to be done, and provide explicit guidance to do it. I think we should approach changing the overall default setting cautiously, as it was implemented for a reason -- its like a trade off between sensitivity and specificity; let's make sure we get the balance right, and provide guidance for specific contexts where the exact definition needs extra calibration to be right for that setting. For now, is a user amends line 81 of their
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I wrote the following comment sequentially, its a bit long:
Assistance to re-do analysis with an amended open space definition To make things easier for those wanting to explore the influence after implementing the above I prepared an alternative Chapultepec park was a 'park' when we analysed it previously It seems that the area that appears park-like at surface value southwest of there was not included in that analysis because it was only incorporated as part of Chapultepec Park in 2021: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chapultepec#Fourth_section. I am not sure how it as tagged there previously, and could check, but this makes sense to me, that it was excluded because at that point in time, it wasn't a park. However the change history for Chapultec park indicates that prior to 2022 it was tagged as In 2022 that tag was removed and replaced with This might be a constructive solution, correcting OpenStreetMap, rather than tweaking things on our side, that could have unintended consequences. It might be that similar solutions could be appropriate for other cities. Love to hear your thoughts @ryn-trnr and @eugenrb Let me know how you go with this, or if it doesn't make sense; happy to work together to make an interim solution as required, and great that @ryn-trnr is interested in exploring sensitivity analyses for the impact of this modification, within-cities and between. |
Moving a recent email thread here for public discussion. From @rychennn on 12 Apr:
From @dapugacheva on 1 May:
From @carlhiggs on 1 May:
We can all discuss this thread further here in this issue as needed. |
I was discussing the above with @MelanieLowe and @ryn-trnr yesterday, and Melanie suggested an additional fifth approach that we should support/suggest when validation of a study region's results identifies specific issues with data representations of features of interest. So, I'll reiterate this list here:
Regarding the first approach (Exceptions), I think that may be the best option for the Finnish cities regarding the 'natural=wood' issue described at the top of this post. We should consult with @VuokkoH and Rossano. Perhaps, we could even allow case by case exceptions, e.g. using specific OSM IDs that have been identified through validation that should be included (that may be a good approach for the Melbourne and Turin examples). Regarding the second approach (Contributions), I believe that maybe the best option in many cases of the 'natural=wood' issue described for Mexico City, where a user removed the tag 'leisure=park' from an important park only leaving 'natural=wood'. I think that was an error and have suggested to Eugen that if she agrees, it could be best fixed by addressing that in OpenStreetMap. Regarding the third approach (Customisation), currently we can do this in an awkward way for point features, but its awkward and could be improved (e.g. allow specification of generic spatial data formats, e.g. layers in a geopackage; the current CSV approach is quite esoteric). We should improve the implementation of custom data configuration, and extend to allow for polygon data such as areas of public open space. The remaining two approaches are where this is a bigger issue that the first three can't solve (methodological change, that must be undertaken with care), or the issue is small enough that it doesn't meaningfully impact inference for the research question being considered (acknowledgement). Do you think the above typology of approaches is good? If so, we can plan to add implementation of Exceptions and Customisation as priorities. I'll add a version of the above as a new 'feature request' for generic support of responses to validation. |
I think this looks like a good menu of approaches. |
Thanks for this very thorough review of the issue, Carl! I have been considering working on the parks label in OSM for a while. This issue with Chapultepec was relevant since it is the most important park in the city. However, I think the tag may have been changed to "wood" because the park's name is "Bosque de Chapultepec" or "Chapultepec Forest," even though it is a large metropolitan urban park with some wooded areas. To me, the most relevant issue we found through the validation was the inclusion of hilltops as parks. This is because most of those green areas are either private land or conservation land that is not accessible for recreational purposes. Mexico City's public park database is quite thorough and an excellent resource. Using that layer would be the preferred data source for parks versus the OSM data. However, we do not have such good data or even any official data for some of the other cities. For the summer, we will be working on the policy analysis for 5 of the 10 Mexican cities we will analyze. Thus, I will have time to review the OSM park labels for these cities, and if I can, I will correct the tags and add some other parks that may need to be added. I am very excited about @ryn-trnr doing this validation/sensitivity analysis since this highlights the need for people to do a quick review of the OSM data before using it and if possible, to correct some of these errors. |
Feedback received from the Public Urban Green Space validation exercise with international collaborators has identified that it is worth considering adding the OSM tag natural=wood to the current list for generating public open space. Below is a list of areas tagged with natural=wood that are not identified as public open space and therefore subsequently not identified as public urban green space.
Mexico City's most significant urban green space, Bosque de Chapultepec.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2514869
Melbourne suburb of Heathmont, Wombolano Park.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27926584
Melbourne suburb of Wantirna, Bateman Street Bushland.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/49751126
Identified by Rossano, various green spaces along the river Sangone in Turin.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/613826844
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/613826852
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/613835108
Identified by Vuokko Heikinheimo, many urban forests in Helsinki such as the one below:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/24368409
The challenge is how does this natural=wood tag play out in different geographic contexts. The provided list are a few examples of missed spaces that obviously should be included but there is still the risk of misclassification if natural=wood is included.
In future, developing a more comprehensive and diverse list of natural=wood examples would be beneficial.
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