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Examples of outlying RVs #961

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Emmavt opened this issue Nov 12, 2024 · 10 comments
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Examples of outlying RVs #961

Emmavt opened this issue Nov 12, 2024 · 10 comments
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Emmavt commented Nov 12, 2024

Following up on meeting with Andrew and Howard yesterday, here are the observation IDs for several outlying RVs in my 2024A+B programs observing M dwarf multis. Several of them have WLS files that are separated by 2-4 days, which is likely the issue.

  • TIC415969908 (TOI 233)
    • KP.20240615.48817.18
  • TIC318022259 (TOI 1730)
    • KP.20240226.39775.54
    • KP.20240424.27690.19
  • TOI-2274 (TOI 2274)
    • KP.20240226.52888.33
    • KP.20240227.52250.54
  • TIC198162530 (TOI 5738)
    • KP.20240914.21049.56
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Thank you for this, @Emmavt !

@howardisaacson, @bjfultn, @shalverson, @lukehandley -- let's try to categorize these outlier RVs and make sure that we're working toward solutions for all of them.

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I would welcome examples of other outlier RVs from other users to be posted to this thread.

@lukehandley
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Here's an example of 3 consecutive exposures of the same target (201092) which seem to have identical WLS attributes, but one of the three has ~km/s difference from the others, as well as double the SNR:

KP.20240526.53616.48
KP.20240526.53725.34
KP.20240526.53833.94 (Outlier)

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bjfultn commented Nov 12, 2024

KP.20240526.53833.94 has different TARG header keywords.

@howardisaacson
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howardisaacson commented Nov 12, 2024 via email

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bpholden commented Nov 12, 2024 via email

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lukehandley commented Nov 12, 2024

Looking at the keywords from the L2 files, the outlier observation was processed as DCSNAME = 201091, i.e. the binary companion.

Based on the observing notes, there was an interruption during observing these targets on that night which required restarting the sequence. Perhaps an observer incorrectly edited the OB?

Edit: I'm seeing a similar issue for observations on another date, where two sequences were taken back to back (both with 'star' 201092) but the first sequence was processed as 201091.

Outliers:
KP.20241010.29111.42
KP.20241010.29220.10
KP.20241010.29328.98

Regular Sequence:
KP.20241010.29938.49
KP.20241010.30046.91
KP.20241010.30155.33

This looks to be more of an accounting issue than a core processing issue.

Edit 2: RVs on 2024-09-14 are affected by the WLS interpolation issue described by Emma.

@howardisaacson howardisaacson self-assigned this Nov 12, 2024
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The outliers that I've encountered for my set of TESS follow-up targets:

TOI-1184:

  • KP.20240226.52167.15 (off by ~140 m/s from the other observations of this target)

TOI-5726:

  • KP.20240225.47797.38 (off by ~260 m/s from the other observations of this target, but this exposure had the simulcal turned on and the spectrum flux is quite low compared to the simulcal in this exposure)
  • KP.20240226.41695.77 (off by ~160 m/s from the other observations, no obvious cause that I've found)
  • KP.20240227.42617.29 (off by ~60 m/s from the other observations, no obvious cause that I've found)

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bjfultn commented Nov 13, 2024

Howard and I went through and added comments about each of the observations listed here so far.

In all cases we are either missing bracketing LFC calibrations and we need to wait until we implement an etalon-based drift correction, or the TARG header keywords set at the telescope from the OB are inconsistent.

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From Stephen Kane and I's 30 target program, I've attached another tranche of outliers I've found
nov2024_outliers.txt

Particularly common problem dates appear to be anything taken between [2-24-2024,2-27-2024], [6-17-2024,6-18-2024], 9-8-2024, and 9-1-2024

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