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GREI HDV Task: Determine whether/how Dataverse can support hierarchical vocabularies #236

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cmbz opened this issue Apr 30, 2024 · 9 comments
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cmbz commented Apr 30, 2024

Overview

  • Determine whether/how Dataverse can support hierarchical vocabularies

Deliverable

  • Defining what hierarchal support means for DV/HDV. What would this look like for DV? What are the goals and how do we know that a solution meets those goals?

Then either:

  • Confirmation that Dataverse can currently provide hierarchical vocabulary support, or
  • Documentation describing how to implement hierarchical vocabulary support in Dataverse

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sbarbosadataverse commented Jul 19, 2024

Sonia and Julian met and discussed additional steps to getting this task done. See updates to "deliverables" above. Julian estimates he can devote time to this issue in mid September

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cmbz commented Aug 5, 2024

2024/08/05

  • Stefano reports that Jim indicated that the Dataverse script for external vocabularies can support hierarchical vocabularies, but work will be needed to store the data properly in Dataverse.
  • Gustavo indicates that the internal vocabulary does not currently support hierarchies. Discussion happened, but implementation did not progress. Design work would needed to implement support.
  • September: @qqmyers @jggautier and @scolapasta will meet to discuss options and possibilities.

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qqmyers commented Aug 5, 2024

I think I said the opposite - with the external vocab mechanism, Dataverse just stores a term URI, so there are no changes needed to support a hierarchical vocabulary - all the changes would be in the JavaScript (to be developed for a give vocabulary/service) where it should be simple to find a widget/mirror what other sites do, etc. to handle hierarchy or graph relations, etc.)

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cmbz commented Aug 5, 2024

Thanks @qqmyers for clarifying. @siacus and @scolapasta please see Jim's comment for an update to our understanding about hierarchical vocab support.

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cmbz commented Nov 18, 2024

2024/11/18: Ask @qqmyers to take a look, recommend next steps (e.g., development work needed), create relevant development issues.

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qqmyers commented Nov 18, 2024

I'd suggest some ~non-dev work to start:

  • pick a vocab to start with, UMLS, or MeSH
  • see if there is a service or repository where we can get the official values in the repository and or where we can link to to provide more info about a term (as we point to a user's ORCID profile)
  • find an example/do a mockup of what navigating the vocabulary should look like
  • assure that all we want/need for now is hierarchical navigation (versus, for example, needed to navigate to related terms elsewhere in the hierarchy)
  • define how the term should be displayed - by itself? as part of a hierarchy of parent terms?
  • define where the term will be added to Dataverse, i.e. which field in which block (note - making it one type of thing that goes in the citation keyword field makes development somewhat more complex than if its a separate field, e.g. in the HEAL block or elsewhere)
  • identify if/where the term should go in the various metadata exports we have. (OAI-ORE and our JSON are trivial, the question is more about DataCite, DDI, etc.)

With the answers above, I think it should be straight-forward to scope the JavaScript work needed to support the input and display, identify whether there's work related to a new metadata block, whether updates are needed to exporters, etc.

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cmbz commented Nov 19, 2024

@jggautier and @sbarbosadataverse do you have suggestions for the first bullet points Jim suggested here: #236 (comment) ?

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Hmm, I'll try to think about it and reply later today

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cmbz commented Nov 21, 2024

2024/11/21: Placing On Hold until @sbarbosadataverse and @jggautier figure out which vocabulary they want to investigate.

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