What do we do with the new WhatsApp Desktop Client? #157
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btw the new whatsapp version have version 2.2310.3.0 and is not available in exe installer version - atm only store version. |
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I just downloaded the windows store version. It doesn't work with the current WhatsappTray, but it's minimizable using rbtray. (here: https://github.com/benbuck/rbtray) That's something. |
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@eileenthg - can you check the version of WhatsApp you have installed from Windows Store? |
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Apparently mine is 2.2310.3.0 |
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General suggestion - want to use WhatsTray - don't update. I installed 2.2317.7 from the link I pasted above and WhatsApp installed version 2.2310.5. |
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"General suggestion - want to use WhatsTray - don't update" So which is the latest version number that fully works with WhatsappTray and/or RBtray? |
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They're mutually exclusive. Looks like Whatsapp is migrating to microsoft. Just use RBTray.. |
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Ok let me rephrase my question: Which is the last working version of WA that works fine with WATray? Btw: RBtray also doesnt work with those UWP versions of WA: benbuck/rbtray#98 So ye... |
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Last working version with WATray is the one provided by @Ascar699, here.
Also the thread you linked me, yes I know it happens. Let's just say RBTray partially works with UWP WA, eh? At least keeps it out of the desktop. That's as close enough for it to be working for me. :< If you want to keep using WATray, DO NOT UPDATE. |
Ascar699 did not "provide" any version here.. all he did was asking what to do..
Thats what @Ascar699 wrote and thats the current version (at least it was 2..3 days before when i downloaded from official WA server through the unofficial link).. and that version is not working with WATray nor is it working with RBtray... 2.2317.7 is not real (yet)... as @Ascar699 stated himself:
So Im back to the starting point asking: Which is the last version of WhatsApp working fully w/ WATray or/and RBtray? |
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Eh? The version he linked didn't work with WATray? Drat. I thought since it had the old framework it's the same. |
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@gentano http://web.archive.org/web/20230401042015/https://www.whatsapp.com/download |
that leads to 2.2310.5 (I just downloaded and checked the version number) which is the current not working version we discussed before ;-) |
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Then keep going backwards in time until a version does work. |
You can still download the last desktop version directly (Version 2.2310.5): https://web.whatsapp.com/desktop/windows/release/x64/WhatsAppSetup.exe I tried the Techspot download mentioned in this thread, and it installed as Version 2.2310.5 |
Ofc, not sure tho if you know how webarchive works ;-) Cuz it keeps downloading the current version from WhatsApp Server and not a version stored directly on webarchive.org ;-) So no matter which version on webarchive You choose the download links always leed to https://web.whatsapp.com/desktop/windows/release/x64/WhatsAppSetup.exe and that means that it will always download the version, thats currently stored on WA server (2.2310.5 atm). We need a site, that stored different WA versions on its own server.. I might have a look later... |
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I've downloaded old stuff from webarchive before. Thank you for letting me and everyone visiting this thread in the future know that for Whatsapp, it sends a request straight to the server to download the latest version, and not a separate archive link on webarchive itself. |
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To anyone who still wants to try web archive, consider web-archiving the download link instead. (Which is https://web.whatsapp.com/desktop/windows/release/x64/WhatsAppSetup.exe ) |
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If you're really desperate to get Whatsapp Store edition to minimize to tray, you can use "eXtra Buttons" to get it done. But it's not ideal...you have to set a hotkey or you have to right click the title bar and select minimize to tray from the context menu. Also, the icon in the system tray when it's minimized is a generic "white rectangle" document icon. |
since ~Sept 2019 the download link leeds to straight up to the whatsapp servers.. the latest version i could download is 0.3.2386 from ~may 2019.. between those dates i couldnt download from webarchive cuz of download error.. https://web.archive.org/web/20190531235623/https://www.whatsapp.com/download/ this link gives you 0.3.2386 |
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Are the older versions found on other websites valid? For example https://filehippo.com/download_whatsapp-32/history/ or https://whatsapp-desktop.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions ? |
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filehippo is fake... regarding to https://whatsapp-desktop.en.uptodown.com/windows/versions 2.2243.11.0 (nov 2022) is latest seperate exe file setup.. since 2.2248.9.0 (dec 2022) there is only msixbundle, which is uwp app to my understanding Ok, nevermind.. its mixed... for example 2.2306.9.0 is a standalone exe file... let me try them out |
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Ok, old standalone exe versions not working cuz they are all automaticall forced to update to the newest version msixbundle versions (UWP apps) also all not working, cuz UWP apps just not clean working at all with RBtray/WAtray Conclusion: Its just not working at all currently, no matter the version :-( Any tipps/ideas appreciated |
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I avoided installing the update because of new one not being compatible with WhatsappTray, but today it automatically stopped working, neither old or new, RBTray not working either. It's 2023 and they do not have an option to minimise to system tray... |
RBTray doesn't work, but http://www.xtrabuttons.com/ works with Whatsapp Store edition. You just have to live with an ugly icon instead of the Whatsapp logo in the system tray if you use it. |
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@ninjaeon You wrote that before, we appreciate your help. |
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Why isn't the WA-Tray programmer doing anything anymore? ... update at least one more time so that we have a working tray version for the WA store app. So sad, unfortunately. xtrabuttons works but it is still displayed in the taskbar ^^ However, we can all write to WhatsApp with a request to implement the feature regarding minimizing to the systray so https://www.whatsapp.com/contact under WhatsApp Messenger Support |
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Somehow reinstalling from Win 32-bit: https://web.whatsapp.com/desktop/windows/release/x64/WhatsAppSetup.exe worked BUT, it's inconsistent. Sometimes there are no problems and sometimes there are but I don't know why. It installed V 2.23.10.5 but I think it's trying to install 2.23.14.X and this breaks it up and show WhatsApp (Outdated) with a grey logo |
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My solution 1 install whatsapp-desktop-2-2310-5 option you can copy root (Whatsapp-2.2310.5) to another location and just set WhatsappTray appData.ini C:\Program Files (x86)\WhatsappTray /// Absolute: "WHATSAPP_STARTPATH=C:\Users\Dakoon\AppData\Local\WhatsApp\WhatsApp.exe" |
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Hello, everyone, Whatsapp Tray was working fine until last update of standalone app (2.2314.11), which uses gray icon and shows "outdated" in title window. |
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Yes, that would be nice, Facebook Messenger App can do that too. |
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I have this new message, will I no longer be able to use this solution? |
Yep. In 24 days what's app tray will be no more. |
Will there be no more warning or whatsapp app tray will not work anymore? |
I would assume the actual what's app app will stop working and force you to update to the uwp version to continue to use what's app on desktop. At that point what's app tray will become obsolete as it doesn't and can never work with the uwp version. Best hope is meta directly add tray support to the actual app. |
thanks We hope it |
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Does anyone know of a way to force, hack, or change the version to |
I really wouldn't waste your time. You can probably keep on an old version of the desktop app by following the instructions above to disable the squirrel updater, but even if it does work it's only a matter of time before the backend API changes. Who knows - WA may even use a different API for the old client than they do for the new one which they will retire along with the app in 21 days. WA desktop is dying - and along with it WA tray. Move on and try and get used to the UWP app or look for solutions for sending that app to the tray - its far more productive than messing around with the old desktop app anymore. |
try this WhatsApp Portable 2.2310.5 - https://ovart.ru/soft/windows/whatsapp-portable/ |
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So it looks like their warning is just a bunch of bullshit to scare people away from using the old versions. For me the countdown stopped 2 days ago and it's now stuck at "App expires at 11:59 PM" message |
Yep it seems so, mine is showing the same message as yesterday, i guess we can continue using it after all. |
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has anyone tried altus: https://github.com/amanharwara/altus#features |
Altus is great - so long as you only need messaging and not calling from desktop. |
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Word of advice, don't unlink your phone from the desktop client, because it forces you to install the new app and you cannot reconnect.
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As of today WhatsApp is trying to force an update. It doesn't manage to do it but I can't use the old version anymore. Any way to bypass this? Or are we doomed to use the other subpar version? |
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I finally opted to use the desktop client with "Continue to show notifications when WhatsApp is not open" set to on. I close the app whenever I don't need it and use SystemTrayMenu as the launcher for WhatsApp. |
Yeah i switched over as well, i used altus for a while and it's pretty good but i noticed that one or two times images didn't sync, also i'd rather be using the official app and it still shows notifications when closed so that's good enough for me, i can also pin it to start menu and quick launch it from there, although SystemTrayMenu is pretty cool as well. |
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Hi all! We have written a small program to make working with the WhatsApp UWP client a little more convenient. Perhaps it will be useful for someone. Main features:
We welcome comments, suggestions and constructive criticism. http://donutsoft.org/assets/files/tb1083_setup.zip |
@donutsoftorg That really is great, but can/will you open source it? Few people will use it otherwise I feel given the nature of 3rd party software interfacing with private messaging apps. |
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I installed it and donated it. Is there a file that I can save so that I can use all functions again after a new installation? For example, if I completely reinstall Windows. |
Hello. Thank you for your interest in our program! Yes, it is quite understandable to be wary of any interactions with instant messenger programs, such as WhatsApp. However, WhatsAppTrayButton does not interfere in any way and does not use any internal WhatsApp interfaces; in fact, it knows how to open and close it, so from the point of view of the privacy of personal correspondence, there is no need to worry. It is no more dangerous than any other program running on Windows at the same time as WhatsApp. Unfortunately, we are not ready to publish the source code yet, for several reasons. Perhaps later. Let's think about how necessary it is to see the source code in the context of leaking personal correspondence? Obviously, such data needs to be transferred somewhere, therefore there must be fairly regular network activity with well-defined volumes, this is very easy to track, for example Wireshark, the source code is not needed here. WhatsAppTrayButton can check its updates approximately once a week, but you can even disable this using the [N] mini-button. Using the same button, you can start the scan manually. And of course, you can completely block all network interactions using the Windows firewall. The program will continue to perform its functions, because a network is not needed for its task. As for potentially malicious code, modern antiviruses with AI training and heuristics do a good job of identifying this. Take a look at VirusTotal, only SecureAge reports "Malicious" in WhatsAppTrayButton.exe, but we have already contacted them about this "false positive", they say it will be fixed within 72 hours. Thank you again for your interest, we hope that we did not disappoint you too much! We look forward to further discussion. :-) |
Hello! First of all, thank you for your donation, it seems you are the first to do this for us! The program does not have any feedback to the donation process, because then at a minimum a specific identifier for each financial transaction would be needed, which is impossible in the case of donations. So we (and the program) rely solely on your word. When reinstalling a program or Windows, simply mark (by pressing a button) that you have already made a donation and everything will work fine. The “maybe donate later” button does roughly the same thing, so you can use that too. :-) Agree, the very meaning of donations is that this action is optional. We do not require any special actions from users and there are no restrictions; the program is completely free for everyone, even for commercial use. Some cosmetic pseudo-blocking in the program interface is designed to draw users' attention to the fact that such a mechanism for supporting authors generally exists. Unfortunately, many people are not even aware of the existence of such feedback. Let us note once again: the program is completely free, you can use it on any number of devices, in any way you see fit, donations are entirely voluntary. Thank you for your interest and important question! :-) |
source - trust me bro no thank you, i don't think i will. |
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@donutsoftorg Thanks for your reply, however unfortunately for me it would be a no. Github really is the wrong platform to be making the open vs non-open source argument as the vast majority of people on here are going to be fully aware of virus scanners and such like, but it wont matter. Few will want to sit analyzing the programs network activity with Wireshark either. Hopefully in the future you might reconsider or Meta will just add the functionality natively to the UWP app. |
Hello, Can you add support for multiscreen? Please |
There is a new Version (1.0.77) - is there a infopage about the changes made? |
I agree with @didster on this. I recommend anyone throwing caution to the wind using WhatsAppTrayButton while it's closed source to at least use Windows Firewall to block it (as suggested by it's dev @donutsoftorg ) or installing something like Portmaster if you want to both monitor and block/allow/control connections in and out of WhatsAppTrayButton & Whatsapp (for example, to also whitelist known addresses associated with Whatsapp and block connections to everything else). |
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Hello, Can you add support for multiscreen? Please There is a new Version (1.0.77) - is there a infopage about the changes made? I agree with @didster on this. I recommend anyone throwing caution |
I will never install this in a million years unless it's open sourced and I discourage anyone reading this from downloading this app. I don't care what you say about it, I don't know you and by defatult I don't trust you. |
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@D4koon Please advise what is the recommended course of action now that Meta has released a new desktop client. Did you have a chance to check it out in terms of possible damage to Whatstray?
WhatsApp is pushing to download and install...
https://about.fb.com/news/2023/03/faster-speeds-improved-calling-whatsapp-desktop/
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